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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> Da ich schon vorgestern aus Eigenem die meisten in der zitierten Weisung enthaltenen Konsiderationen vorgebracht hatte, wiederholte ich dieselben präziser mit dem Hinweis, daß ich nunmehr im selben Sinne auf Grund Instruktionen sprechen könne. Minister schien enttäuscht, da er erwartet hatte, ich würde zu der von ihm vorgestern angeregten Mediation Stellung nehmen. Er fragte, ob ich auf meine Meldung Antwort hätte, was ich verneinte. Sazonow meinte sodann, daß dies nicht allzuviel Gutes wäre und daß die Situation jedenfalls ernst sei. Die serbische Antwort sei so konziliant gewesen, daß er erstaunt sei, daß man dieselbe als ungenügend angesehen habe. Ich kritisierte die Note Herrn Pašic' im Sinne des bezüglichen Wiener Communiqués und hob hervor, daß besonders der am meisten im Vordergrund stehende Punkt der Mitwirkung bei der Untersuchung über das Attentat unglaublicherweise glatt abgelehnt worden sei. Wenn sich die serbische Regierung wenigstens auch hier auf eine Bitte um Interpretierung beschränkt hätte! Der Minister erklärte hierauf, daß wir also nur wegen des einen Punktes uneinig seien! Ich korrigierte, die serbische Regierung sei auch bei vielen anderen nur der Form nach entgegengekommen, daß aber die Ablehnung dieses Punktes wohl den schlechtesten Eindruck hervorrufen mußte. Sodann bat Herr Sazonow nochmals dringend um Übermittlung des Dossiers, welches den Mächten versprochen sei und noch nicht vorliege. Man wolle dasselbe doch sehen, bevor der Krieg mit Serbien begonnen habe. Wenn Kriegsausbruch einmal erfolgt sei, sei es zu spät, Dossiers zu prüfen. Dies alles besprach der Minister trotz sichtlicher Enttäuschung in ziemlich ruhiger und freundschaftlicher Weise, und ich hatte den Eindruck, daß er noch Hoffnung darauf setzte, im Dossier etwas zu finden, was ihm das Abrücken von Serbien ermöglichen könnte.</ins></div></td></tr>
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