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	I can say nothing, it will be practically useless for me to take		I can say nothing, it will be practically useless for me to take
	up any other large plain. This is the most important thing for		up any other large plain. This is the most important thing for
−	us on the diplomatic horizon.</blockquote>	+	us on the diplomatic horizon.
−	<br><br>	+	</blockquote>
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−	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I></center>	+	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I></center>
−	<blockquote><br><br>Dornoch, Scotland,<BR>	+	<blockquote><br><br>Dornoch, Scotland,<BR>
−	September 10, 1913.	+	September 10, 1913.
−	<br><br>DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:	+	<br><br>DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:
−	<br><br>I am spending ten or more of the dog days visiting the Englishman	+	<br><br>I am spending ten or more of the dog days visiting the Englishman
−	and the Scotchman in their proper setting---their country homes---where	+	and the Scotchman in their proper setting---their country homes---where
	they show themselves the best of hosts and reveal their real		they show themselves the best of hosts and reveal their real
	opinions. There are, for example, in the house where I happen		opinions. There are, for example, in the house where I happen

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	up any other large plain. This is the most important thing for		up any other large plain. This is the most important thing for
	us on the diplomatic horizon.</blockquote>		us on the diplomatic horizon.</blockquote>
−	<br><br>.	+	<br><br>

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−	~~<br><br>.~~

	<br><br>The story of Sir William Tyrrell's<ref>Ante: page 202.</ref>		<br><br>The story of Sir William Tyrrell's<ref>Ante: page 202.</ref>
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	awake o' nights to keep its promises."		awake o' nights to keep its promises."
	<br><br>It's our turn next, whenever you see your way clear.</blockquote>		<br><br>It's our turn next, whenever you see your way clear.</blockquote>
−	<BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>Most heartily yours,	+	<br><br>Most heartily yours,
−	<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>.	+	<br><br>.

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	<br><br>I am infinitely obliged to you for your kind understanding		<br><br>I am infinitely obliged to you for your kind understanding
	and your toleration of my errors.</blockquote>		and your toleration of my errors.</blockquote>
−	<BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>Yours always heartily,	+	<br><br>Yours always heartily,
−	<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>To the President.	+	<br><br>To the President.
	<br><br>P. S. The serious part of the speech---made to convince the		<br><br>P. S. The serious part of the speech---made to convince the
	financial people, who are restive about Mexico, that we do not		financial people, who are restive about Mexico, that we do not

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	that could not be disclosed at the time and for which the repeal		that could not be disclosed at the time and for which the repeal
	of the tolls legislation was the necessary preliminary.		of the tolls legislation was the necessary preliminary.
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	<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>		<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
	<br><br>.		<br><br>.
−	<P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">From Edward M. House</FONT></I>	+	<P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">From Edward M. House</FONT></I>
−	<br><br>145 East 35th Street,<BR>	+	<br><br>145 East 35th Street,<BR>
−	New York City.<BR>	+	New York City.<BR>
−	January 24, 1914.	+	January 24, 1914.
−	<br><br>DEAR PAGE:	+	<br><br>DEAR PAGE:
−	<br><br>I was with the President for twenty-four hours and we went	+	<br><br>I was with the President for twenty-four hours and we went
−	over everything thoroughly.	+	over everything thoroughly.
−	<br><br>He decided to call the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations	+	<br><br>He decided to call the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
−	to the White House on Monday and tell them of his intentions	+	to the White House on Monday and tell them of his intentions
−	regarding Panama tolls. We discussed whether it would be better	+	regarding Panama tolls. We discussed whether it would be better
−	to see some of them individually, or to take them collectively.	+	to see some of them individually, or to take them collectively.
−	It was agreed that the latter course was better. It was decided,	+	It was agreed that the latter course was better. It was decided,
−	however, to have Senator Jones poll the Senate in order to find	+	however, to have Senator Jones poll the Senate in order to find
−	just how it stood before getting the Committee together.	+	just how it stood before getting the Committee together.
−	<br><br>The reason for this quick action was in response to your letter	+	<br><br>The reason for this quick action was in response to your letter
−	urging that something be done before the 10th of February. .	+	urging that something be done before the 10th of February. .
−	. .	+	. .
−	<BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>Faithfully yours,	+	<br><br>Faithfully yours,
−	<br><br>E. M. HOUSE.</BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<br><br>E. M. HOUSE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
	</BLOCKQUOTE>		</BLOCKQUOTE>

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−	<~~P ALIGN=~~CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>	+	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
	<br><br>February 28, 1914.		<br><br>February 28, 1914.
	<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:		<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:

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	and how they publish most secret despatches or allow them to		and how they publish most secret despatches or allow them to
	leak out. But "bad breaks" like this occur. Mr. Z,		leak out. But "bad breaks" like this occur. Mr. Z,
−	of the 100-years'-Peace Committee,(<~~A NAME="n44"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#44">44~~</A>)	+	of the 100-years'-Peace Committee,<ref>The Committee to celebrate the centennial of the signing of the Treaty of Ghent, which ended the War of 1812. The plan to make this an elaborate commemoration of a 100 years' peace between the English-speaking peoples was upset by the outbreak of the World War.</ref>
	came here a week ago, with a letter from Bryan to the Prime Minister!		came here a week ago, with a letter from Bryan to the Prime Minister!
	Z told me that this 100-year business gave a chance to bind the		Z told me that this 100-year business gave a chance to bind the
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	his good services, his good intentions. We not only tolerate		his good services, his good intentions. We not only tolerate
	him; we like him. But when he comes here as "the American		him; we like him. But when he comes here as "the American
−	Prime Minister"(<~~A NAME="n45"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#45">45~~</A>)	+	Prime Minister"<ref>This was the designation Mr. Bryan's admirers sometimes gave him.</ref>
	goodbye, John! All that we've tried to do to gain respect for		goodbye, John! All that we've tried to do to gain respect for
	our Government (as they respect our great nation) will disappear		our Government (as they respect our great nation) will disappear
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	(I confess) I'd rather be gone. No member of another government		(I confess) I'd rather be gone. No member of another government
	ever came here and lectured. T. R. did it as a private citizen,		ever came here and lectured. T. R. did it as a private citizen,
−	and even then he split the heavens asunder.(<~~A NAME="n46"~~>~~</A><A~~	+	and even then he split the heavens asunder.<ref>The reference is to President Roosevelt's speech at the Guildhall in June, 1910.</ref> Most Englishmen will regard it
−	~~HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#46">46~~</A>) Most Englishmen will regard it	+
	as a piece of effrontery. Of course, I'm not in the least concerned		as a piece of effrontery. Of course, I'm not in the least concerned
	about mere matters of taste. It's only the bigger effects that		about mere matters of taste. It's only the bigger effects that
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	had nothing to say about the tolls---simply asked for time. They		had nothing to say about the tolls---simply asked for time. They
	were very friendly; but our slang phrase fits the situation---"nothin'		were very friendly; but our slang phrase fits the situation---"nothin'
−	doin'." They declined San Francisco.(<~~A NAME="n47"~~>~~</A><A~~	+	doin'." They declined San Francisco.<ref>This refers to the declination of the British Government to be represented at the San Francisco world exhibition, held in 1915.</ref> Then presently they began to
−	~~HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#47">47~~</A>) Then presently they began to	+
	see some plan in Mexico; they began to see our attitude on the		see some plan in Mexico; they began to see our attitude on the
	tolls; they began to understand our attitude toward concessions		tolls; they began to understand our attitude toward concessions
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	<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:		<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
	<br><br><I>. . . Couldn't the business with Great Britain be put into		<br><br><I>. . . Couldn't the business with Great Britain be put into
−	Moore's</I>(<~~A NAME="n48"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#48">48~~</A>)<I>	+	Moore's</I><ref>John Bassett Moore, at that time the very able counsellor of the State Department.</ref><I>
	hands? </I>It is surely important enough at times to warrant		hands? </I>It is surely important enough at times to warrant
	separate attention---or (I might say) attention. You know, after		separate attention---or (I might say) attention. You know, after
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	keep it. The English feeling was shown just the other week when		keep it. The English feeling was shown just the other week when
	Senator Root received an honourary degree at Oxford.		Senator Root received an honourary degree at Oxford.
−	<br><br>The thing that gave him fame here was his speech on this treaty.(<A	+	<br><br>The thing that gave him fame here was his speech on this treaty.<ref>Mr. Root's masterly speech on Panama tolls was made in the United States Senate. January 21, 1913.</ref> There is no
−	~~NAME="n49"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#49">49~~</A>) There is no	+
	end of ways in which they show their feeling and conviction.		end of ways in which they show their feeling and conviction.
	<br><br>Now if in the next regular session the President takes a firm		<br><br>Now if in the next regular session the President takes a firm
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	<br><br>.		<br><br>.

−	<br><br>The story of Sir William Tyrrell's(<~~A NAME="n50"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#50">50~~</A>)	+	<br><br>The story of Sir William Tyrrell's<ref>Ante: page 202.</ref>
	visit to the White House in November, 1913, has already been told.		visit to the White House in November, 1913, has already been told.
	On this occasion, it will be recalled, not only was an agreement		On this occasion, it will be recalled, not only was an agreement
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	States is yet English-led and English-ruled." This was merely		States is yet English-led and English-ruled." This was merely
	a way of phrasing a great historic truth---that overwhelmingly		a way of phrasing a great historic truth---that overwhelmingly
−	the largest element in the American population is British in origin(<A	+	the largest element in the American population is British in origin<ref>This is the fact that is too frequently lost sight of in current discussions of the Melting pot. In the Atlantic Monthly for August, 1920, Mr. William S. Rossiter, for many years chief clerk of the United States Census and a statistician of high standing, shows that, of the 95,000,000 white people of the United States, 55,000,000 trace their origin to England, Scotland, and Wales.</ref>; that such vital
−	~~NAME="n51"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#51">51~~</A>); that such vital	+
	things as its speech and its literature are English; and that		things as its speech and its literature are English; and that
	our political institutions, our liberty, our law, our conceptions		our political institutions, our liberty, our law, our conceptions
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	March 25, 1914.		March 25, 1914.
	<br><br>MY DEAR PAGE:		<br><br>MY DEAR PAGE:
−	<br><br>Thank you for your little note of March thirteenth.(<~~A NAME="n52"~~>~~</A><A~~	+	<br><br>Thank you for your little note of March thirteenth.<ref>The Ambassador's letter is dated March 18th.</ref>
−	~~HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#52">52~~</A>)	+
	<br><br>You may be sure that none of us who knew you or read the speech		<br><br>You may be sure that none of us who knew you or read the speech
	felt anything but admiration for it. It is very astonishing to		felt anything but admiration for it. It is very astonishing to
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	<br><br>I congratulate you most heartily on the character of most		<br><br>I congratulate you most heartily on the character of most
	of your opposition---the wild Irish (they must be sat upon some		of your opposition---the wild Irish (they must be sat upon some
−	time, why not now?), the Clark(<~~A NAME="n53"~~>~~</A><A HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#53">53~~</A>)	+	time, why not now?), the Clark<ref>Mr. Champ Clark, Speaker of the House of Representatives, was one of the most blatant opponents of Panama repeal.</ref>
	crowd (characteristically making a stand on a position of dishonour),		crowd (characteristically making a stand on a position of dishonour),
	the Hearst press, and demagogues generally. I have confidence		the Hearst press, and demagogues generally. I have confidence
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	that could not be disclosed at the time and for which the repeal		that could not be disclosed at the time and for which the repeal
	of the tolls legislation was the necessary preliminary.		of the tolls legislation was the necessary preliminary.
		+	<hr>

		+	<references/>

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	<br><br>Please do not distress yourself about that speech. I think		<br><br>Please do not distress yourself about that speech. I think
	with you that it was a mistake to touch upon that matter while		with you that it was a mistake to touch upon that matter while
−	it was right hot, because any touch would be sure to burn the	+	it was right hot, because any touch would be sure to burn the
−	finger; but as for the speech itself, I would be willing to subscribe	+	finger; but as for the speech itself, I would be willing to subscribe
−	to every bit of it myself, and there can be no rational objection	+	to every bit of it myself, and there can be no rational objection
−	to it. We shall try to cool the excited persons on this side	+	to it. We shall try to cool the excited persons on this side
−	of the water and I think nothing further will come of it. In	+	of the water and I think nothing further will come of it. In
−	the meantime, pray realize how thoroughly and entirely you are	+	the meantime, pray realize how thoroughly and entirely you are
−	enjoying my confidence and admiration.	+	enjoying my confidence and admiration.
−	<br><br>Your letter about Cowdray and Murray was very illuminating	+	<br><br>Your letter about Cowdray and Murray was very illuminating
−	and will be very serviceable to me. I have come to see that the	+	and will be very serviceable to me. I have come to see that the
−	real knowledge of the relations between countries in matters	+	real knowledge of the relations between countries in matters
−	of public policy is to be gained at country houses and dinner	+	of public policy is to be gained at country houses and dinner
−	tables, and not in diplomatic correspondence; in brief, that	+	tables, and not in diplomatic correspondence; in brief, that
−	when we know the men and the currents of opinion, we know more	+	when we know the men and the currents of opinion, we know more
−	than foreign ministers can tell us; and your letters give me,	+	than foreign ministers can tell us; and your letters give me,
−	in a thoroughly dignified way, just the sidelights that are necessary	+	in a thoroughly dignified way, just the sidelights that are necessary
−	to illuminate the picture. I am heartily obliged to you.	+	to illuminate the picture. I am heartily obliged to you.
−	<br><br>All unite with me in the warmest regards as always.	+	<br><br>All unite with me in the warmest regards as always.
−	<br><br>In haste,	+	<br><br>In haste,
−	<BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>Faithfully yours,	+	<br><br>Faithfully yours,
−	<br><br>WOODROW WILSON.</BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<br><br>WOODROW WILSON.</BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>HON. WALTER H. PAGE,<BR>	+	<br><br>HON. WALTER H. PAGE,<BR>
−	American Embassy,<BR>	+	American Embassy,<BR>
−	London, England.</BLOCKQUOTE>	+	London, England.</BLOCKQUOTE>

	<br><br>A note of a conversation with Sir Edward Grey touches the same		<br><br>A note of a conversation with Sir Edward Grey touches the same

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−	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>	+	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
−	<br><br>February 28, 1914.	+	<br><br>February 28, 1914.
−	<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:	+	<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
−	<br><br><I>. . . Couldn't the business with Great Britain be put into	+	<br><br><I>. . . Couldn't the business with Great Britain be put into
−	Moore's</I>(<A NAME="n48"></A><A HREF="Pagenotes.htm#48">48</A>)<I>	+	Moore's</I>(<A NAME="n48"></A><A HREF="Pagenotes.htm#48">48</A>)<I>
−	hands? </I>It is surely important enough at times to warrant	+	hands? </I>It is surely important enough at times to warrant
−	separate attention---or (I might say) attention. You know, after	+	separate attention---or (I might say) attention. You know, after
−	eight or nine months of this sort of thing, the feeling grows	+	eight or nine months of this sort of thing, the feeling grows
−	on us all here that perhaps many of our telegrams and letters	+	on us all here that perhaps many of our telegrams and letters
−	may not be read by anybody at all. You begin to feel that they	+	may not be read by anybody at all. You begin to feel that they
−	may not be deciphered or even opened. Then comes the feeling	+	may not be deciphered or even opened. Then comes the feeling
−	(for a moment), why send any more? Why do anything but answer	+	(for a moment), why send any more? Why do anything but answer
−	such questions as come now and then? Corresponding with Nobody---can	+	such questions as come now and then? Corresponding with Nobody---can
−	you imagine how that feels?---What the devil do you suppose does	+	you imagine how that feels?---What the devil do you suppose does
−	become of the letters and telegrams that I send, from which and	+	become of the letters and telegrams that I send, from which and
−	about which I never hear a word? As a mere matter of curiosity	+	about which I never hear a word? As a mere matter of curiosity
−	I should like to know who receives them and what he does with	+	I should like to know who receives them and what he does with
−	them!	+	them!
−	<br><br>I've a great mind some day to send a despatch saying that	+	<br><br>I've a great mind some day to send a despatch saying that
−	an earthquake has swallowed up the Thames, that a suffragette	+	an earthquake has swallowed up the Thames, that a suffragette
−	has kissed the King, and that the statue of Cromwell has made	+	has kissed the King, and that the statue of Cromwell has made
−	an assault on the House of Lords---just to see if anybody deciphers	+	an assault on the House of Lords---just to see if anybody deciphers
−	it.	+	it.
−	<br><br>After the Civil War an old fellow in Virginia was tired of	+	<br><br>After the Civil War an old fellow in Virginia was tired of
−	the world. He'd have no more to do with it. He cut a slit in	+	the world. He'd have no more to do with it. He cut a slit in
−	a box in his house and nailed up the box. Whenever a letter came	+	a box in his house and nailed up the box. Whenever a letter came
−	for him, he'd read the postmark and say "Baltimore---Baltimore---there	+	for him, he'd read the postmark and say "Baltimore---Baltimore---there
−	isn't anybody in Baltimore that I care to hear from." Then	+	isn't anybody in Baltimore that I care to hear from." Then
−	he'd drop the letter unopened through the slit into the box.	+	he'd drop the letter unopened through the slit into the box.
−	" Philadelphia? I have no friend in Philadelphia "---into	+	" Philadelphia? I have no friend in Philadelphia "---into
−	the box, unopened. When he died, the big box was nearly full	+	the box, unopened. When he died, the big box was nearly full
−	of unopened letters. When I get to Washington again, I'm going	+	of unopened letters. When I get to Washington again, I'm going
−	to look for a big box that must now be nearly full of my unopened	+	to look for a big box that must now be nearly full of my unopened
−	letters and telegrams.	+	letters and telegrams.
−	<BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<BLOCKQUOTE>
−	<br><br>W. H. P.</BLOCKQUOTE>	+	<br><br>W. H. P.</BLOCKQUOTE>
	</BLOCKQUOTE>		</BLOCKQUOTE>