VI "POLICY" AND "PRINCIPLE" IN MEXICO - Revision history

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	<CENTER><FONT SIZE="+2">CHAPTER VI</FONT></center><br><br>		<CENTER><FONT SIZE="+2">CHAPTER VI</FONT></center><br><br>

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	I warns you 'fore God, don't you keep givin' me none o' your		I warns you 'fore God, don't you keep givin' me none o' your
	damned silence!" I wish you'd tell all my friends that story.		damned silence!" I wish you'd tell all my friends that story.
−	~~</BLOCKQUOTE>~~	+


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	Always heartily yours,<br><br>		Always heartily yours,<br><br>
−	WALTER H. PAGE.</~~blockquote~~>	+	WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>

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	shooting with subjugation. We associate shooting with freedom."		shooting with subjugation. We associate shooting with freedom."
	Half this blessed Sunday at this country house I have been ramming		Half this blessed Sunday at this country house I have been ramming
−	the idea down the throat of the Lord Chancellor.(<~~A NAME="n37"~~>~~</A><A~~	+	the idea down the throat of the Lord Chancellor.(<ref>Viscount Haldane, Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain since 1912.</ref>) <I>He </I>sees it, too, being
−	~~HREF="Pagenotes~~.~~htm#37">37~~</A>) <I>He </I>sees it, too, being	+
	a Scotchman. I take the members of the Government, as I get the		a Scotchman. I take the members of the Government, as I get the
	chance or can make it, and go over with them the A B C of the		chance or can make it, and go over with them the A B C of the

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	Always heartily yours,<br><br>		Always heartily yours,<br><br>
−	WALTER H. PAGE.</~~BLOCKQUOTE~~>	+	WALTER H. PAGE.</blockquote>

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	New York City.<BR>		New York City.<BR>
	November 4, 1913.		November 4, 1913.
−	<br><br>DEAR PAGE:	+	<br><br>DEAR PAGE:</blockquote>
	<br><br>Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell		<br><br>Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell
	on the <I>Imperator, </I>was handed me on my way to the train		on the <I>Imperator, </I>was handed me on my way to the train

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	might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure		might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure
	to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .		to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .
−	.<BLOCKQUOTE>	+	.</BLOCKQUOTE>

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−	~~<br><br>.~~	+	So far as a meeting between a British diplomat and the President
−		+
−	~~<br><br>~~So far as a meeting between a British diplomat and the President	+
	of the United States could solve the Mexican problem, that problem		of the United States could solve the Mexican problem, that problem
	was apparently solved. The dearest wish of Mr. Wilson, the elimination		was apparently solved. The dearest wish of Mr. Wilson, the elimination

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−	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>	+	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
−	<br><br>London, August 25, 1913.~~</center>~~	+	<br><br>London, August 25, 1913.
	<br><br>MY DEAR HOUSE:		<br><br>MY DEAR HOUSE:
	<br><br>. . . If you find a chance, get the substance of this memorandum		<br><br>. . . If you find a chance, get the substance of this memorandum
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	might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure		might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure
	to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .		to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .
−	.	+	.<BLOCKQUOTE>
		+
	<BLOCKQUOTE>		<BLOCKQUOTE>
	<br><br>Yours heartily,		<br><br>Yours heartily,
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	offered too good an opportunity to be lost.		offered too good an opportunity to be lost.
	<br><br>.		<br><br>.
−	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>	+	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
	<br><br>Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge. <BR>		<br><br>Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge. <BR>
−	Sunday, October 26, 1913.~~</center>~~	+	Sunday, October 26, 1913.
	<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:		<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
	<br><br>Sir William Tyrrell, the secretary of Sir Edward Grey---himself,		<br><br>Sir William Tyrrell, the secretary of Sir Edward Grey---himself,
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−	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">From Edward M. House</FONT></I>	+	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">From Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
	<br><br>145 East 35th Street,<BR>		<br><br>145 East 35th Street,<BR>
	New York City.<BR>		New York City.<BR>
−	November 4, 1913.~~</center>~~	+	November 4, 1913.
	<br><br>DEAR PAGE:		<br><br>DEAR PAGE:
	<br><br>Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell		<br><br>Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell

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−	<br><br>I have just come from an hour's talk with Grey about Mexico.	+	<br><br>I have just come from an hour's talk with Grey about Mexico.
−	He showed me his telegram to Carden, asking about Carden's reported	+	He showed me his telegram to Carden, asking about Carden's reported
−	interview criticizing the United States, and Carden's flat denial.	+	interview criticizing the United States, and Carden's flat denial.
−	He showed me another telegram to Carden about Huerta's reported	+	He showed me another telegram to Carden about Huerta's reported
−	boast that he would have the backing of London, Paris, and Berlin	+	boast that he would have the backing of London, Paris, and Berlin
−	against the United States, in which Grey advised Carden that	+	against the United States, in which Grey advised Carden that
−	British policy should be to keep aloof from Huerta's boasts and	+	British policy should be to keep aloof from Huerta's boasts and
−	plans. Carden denied that Huerta made such a boast in his statement	+	plans. Carden denied that Huerta made such a boast in his statement
−	to the Diplomatic Corps. Grey wishes the President to know of	+	to the Diplomatic Corps. Grey wishes the President to know of
−	these telegrams.	+	these telegrams.
−	<br><br>Talk then became personal and informal. I went over the whole	+	<br><br>Talk then became personal and informal. I went over the whole
−	subject again, telling how the Press and people of the United	+	subject again, telling how the Press and people of the United
−	States were becoming critical of the British Government; that	+	States were becoming critical of the British Government; that
−	they regarded the problem as wholly American; that they resented	+	they regarded the problem as wholly American; that they resented
−	aid to Huerta, whom they regarded as a mere tyrant; that they	+	aid to Huerta, whom they regarded as a mere tyrant; that they
−	suspected British interests of giving financial help to Huerta;	+	suspected British interests of giving financial help to Huerta;
−	that many newspapers and persons refused to believe Carden's	+	that many newspapers and persons refused to believe Carden's
−	denial; that the President's policy was not academic but was	+	denial; that the President's policy was not academic but was
−	the only policy that would square with American ideals and that	+	the only policy that would square with American ideals and that
−	it was unchangeable. I cited our treatment of Cuba. I explained	+	it was unchangeable. I cited our treatment of Cuba. I explained
−	again that I was talking unofficially and giving him only my	+	again that I was talking unofficially and giving him only my
−	own interpretation of the people's mood. He asked, if the British	+	own interpretation of the people's mood. He asked, if the British
−	~~Government~~ should withdraw the recognition of Huerta, what would	+	government should withdraw the recognition of Huerta, what would
−	happen.	+	happen.
−	<br><br>"In my opinion," I replied, "he would collapse."	+	<br><br>"In my opinion," I replied, "he would collapse."
−	<br><br>"What would happen then---worse chaos?"	+	<br><br>"What would happen then---worse chaos?"
−	<br><br>"That is impossible," I said. "There is no	+	<br><br>"That is impossible," I said. "There is no
−	worse chaos than deputies in jail, the dictatorial doubling of	+	worse chaos than deputies in jail, the dictatorial doubling of
−	the tariff, the suppression of opinion, and the practical banishment	+	the tariff, the suppression of opinion, and the practical banishment
−	of independent men. If Huerta should fall, there is hope that	+	of independent men. If Huerta should fall, there is hope that
−	suppressed men and opinion will set up a successful government."	+	suppressed men and opinion will set up a successful government."
−	<br><br>"Suppose that fail," he asked----"'what then?"	+	<br><br>"Suppose that fail," he asked----"'what then?"
−	<br><br>I replied that, in case of continued and utter failure, the	+	<br><br>I replied that, in case of continued and utter failure, the
−	United States might feel obliged to repeat its dealings with	+	United States might feel obliged to repeat its dealings with
−	Cuba and that the continued excitement of opinion in the United	+	Cuba and that the continued excitement of opinion in the United
−	States might precipitate this.	+	States might precipitate this.
−	<br><br>Grey protested that he knew nothing of what British interests	+	<br><br>Grey protested that he knew nothing of what British interests
−	had done or were doing, that he wished time to think the matter	+	had done or were doing, that he wished time to think the matter
−	out and that he was glad to await the President's communication.	+	out and that he was glad to await the President's communication.
−	He thanked me cordially for my frank statements and declared	+	He thanked me cordially for my frank statements and declared
−	that he understood perfectly their personal nature. I impressed	+	that he understood perfectly their personal nature. I impressed
−	him with the seriousness of American public opinion.	+	him with the seriousness of American public opinion.
−	<br><br>The last thing that the British Government desired at this	+	<br><br>The last thing that the British Government desired at this
−	time was a serious misunderstanding with the United States, on	+	time was a serious misunderstanding with the United States, on
−	Mexico or any other matter. Yet the Mexican situation, in early	+	Mexico or any other matter. Yet the Mexican situation, in early
−	November, 1913, clearly demanded a complete cleaning up. The	+	November, 1913, clearly demanded a complete cleaning up. The
−	occasion soon presented itself. Sir William Tyrrell, the private	+	occasion soon presented itself. Sir William Tyrrell, the private
−	secretary of Sir Edward Grey sailed, in late October, for the	+	secretary of Sir Edward Grey sailed, in late October, for the
−	United States. The purpose of his visit was not diplomatic, but	+	United States. The purpose of his visit was not diplomatic, but
−	Page evidently believed that his presence in the United States	+	Page evidently believed that his presence in the United States
−	offered too good an opportunity to be lost.	+	offered too good an opportunity to be lost.</blockquote>
−	<br><br>.	+	<br><br>.
		+
	<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>		<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
	<br><br>Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge. <BR>		<br><br>Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge. <BR>
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	<br><br>And don't you concern yourself about the English. They're		<br><br>And don't you concern yourself about the English. They're
	all right---a little slow, but all right.		all right---a little slow, but all right.
−	~~<BLOCKQUOTE>~~	+
	<br><br>Heartily yours,		<br><br>Heartily yours,
	<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>		<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>