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<BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I>
  <br><br>6 Grosvenor Square, London,<BR>
<br><br>6 Grosvenor Square, London,<BR></center>
  Friday night, October 24, 1913.
Friday night, October 24, 1913.
  <br><br>DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:
<br><br>DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:
  <br><br>In this wretched Mexican business, about which I have read
<br><br>In this wretched Mexican business, about which I have read
  columns and columns and columns of comment these two days and
columns and columns and columns of comment these two days and
  turned every conceivable proposition back and forth in my mind---in
turned every conceivable proposition back and forth in my mind---in
  this whole wretched waste of comment, I have not seen even an
this whole wretched waste of comment, I have not seen even an
  allusion to any moral principle involved nor a word of concern
allusion to any moral principle involved nor a word of concern
  about the Mexican people. It is all about who is the stronger,
about the Mexican people. It is all about who is the stronger,
  Huerta or some other bandit, and about the necessity of order
Huerta or some other bandit, and about the necessity of order
  for the sake of financial interests. Nobody recalls our action
for the sake of financial interests. Nobody recalls our action
  in giving Cuba to the Cubans or our pledge to the people of the
in giving Cuba to the Cubans or our pledge to the people of the
  Philippine Islands. But there is reference to the influence of
Philippine Islands. But there is reference to the influence of
  Standard Oil in the American policy. This illustrates the complete
Standard Oil in the American policy. This illustrates the complete
  divorce of European politics from fundamental morals, and it
divorce of European politics from fundamental morals, and it
  shocks even a man who before knew of this divorce.
shocks even a man who before knew of this divorce.
  <br><br>In my last talk with Sir Edward Grey I drove this home by
<br><br>In my last talk with Sir Edward Grey I drove this home by
  emphasizing strongly the impossibility of your playing primary
emphasizing strongly the impossibility of your playing primary
  heed to any American business interest in Mexico ---even---the
heed to any American business interest in Mexico ---even---the
  immorality of your doing so; there are many things that come
immorality of your doing so; there are many things that come
  before business and there are some things that come before order.
before business and there are some things that come before order.
  I used American business interests because I couldn't speak openly
I used American business interests because I couldn't speak openly
  of British business interests and his Government. I am sure he
of British business interests and his Government. I am sure he
  saw the obvious inference. But not even from him came a word
saw the obvious inference. But not even from him came a word
  about the moral foundation of government or about the welfare
about the moral foundation of government or about the welfare
  of the Mexican people. These are not in the European governing
of the Mexican people. These are not in the European governing
  vocabulary.
vocabulary.
  <br><br>1 have been trying to find a way to help this Government to
<br><br>1 have been trying to find a way to help this Government to
  wake up to the effect of its pro-Huerta position and to give
wake up to the effect of its pro-Huerta position and to give
  them a chance to refrain from repeating that mistake---and to
them a chance to refrain from repeating that mistake---and to
  save their faces; and I have telegraphed one plan to Mr. Bryan
save their faces; and I have telegraphed one plan to Mr. Bryan
  to-day. I think they ought now to be forced to show their hand
to-day. I think they ought now to be forced to show their hand
  without the possibility of evasion. They will not risk losing
without the possibility of evasion. They will not risk losing
  our good-will---if it seem wise to you to put them to a square
our good-will---if it seem wise to you to put them to a square
  test.
test.
  <br><br>It's a wretched business, and the sordid level of European
<br><br>It's a wretched business, and the sordid level of European
  statecraft is sad.
statecraft is sad.
  <br><br>I ran across the Prime Minister at the royal wedding reception(<A
<br><br>I ran across the Prime Minister at the royal wedding reception(<ref>Prince Arthur of Connaught and the Duchess of Fife were married in the Chapel Royal, October 16, 1913.</ref>) the other day.
  NAME="n34"></A><A HREF="Pagenotes.htm#34">34</A>) the other day.
<br><br>&quot;What do you infer from the latest news from Mexico?&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;What do you infer from the latest news from Mexico?&quot;
he asked.
  he asked.
<br><br>&quot;Several things.&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;Several things.&quot;
<br><br>&quot;Tell me the most important inference you draw.&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;Tell me the most important inference you draw.&quot;
<br><br>&quot;Well, the danger of prematurely making up one's mind
  <br><br>&quot;Well, the danger of prematurely making up one's mind
about a Mexican adventurer.&quot;
  about a Mexican adventurer.&quot;
<br><br>&quot;Ah!&quot; and he moved on.
  <br><br>&quot;Ah!&quot; and he moved on.
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>Very heartily yours,
    <br><br>Very heartily yours,
<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>.
  <br><br>.
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I>
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I>
<br><br>London, Sunday, Nov. 16, 1913.</center>
  <br><br>London, Sunday, Nov. 16, 1913.
<br><br>. . . About the obligations and inferences of democracy, they
  <br><br>. . . About the obligations and inferences of democracy, they
are dense. They don't really believe in it; and they are slow
  are dense. They don't really believe in it; and they are slow
to see what good will come of ousting Huerta unless we know beforehand
  to see what good will come of ousting Huerta unless we know beforehand
who will succeed him. Sir Edward Grey is not dense, but in this
  who will succeed him. Sir Edward Grey is not dense, but in this
matter even he is slow fully to understand. The Lord knows I've
  matter even he is slow fully to understand. The Lord knows I've
told him plainly over and over again and, I fear, even preached
  told him plainly over and over again and, I fear, even preached
to him. At first he couldn't see the practical nature of so &quot;idealistic&quot;
  to him. At first he couldn't see the practical nature of so &quot;idealistic&quot;
a programme. I explained to him how the immemorial &quot;policy&quot;
  a programme. I explained to him how the immemorial &quot;policy&quot;
that we all followed of recognizing momentarily successful adventurers
  that we all followed of recognizing momentarily successful adventurers
in Latin-America had put a premium on revolution; that you had
  in Latin-America had put a premium on revolution; that you had
found something better than a policy, namely, a principle; that
  found something better than a policy, namely, a principle; that
policies change, but principles do not; that he need not be greatly
  policies change, but principles do not; that he need not be greatly
concerned about the successor to Huerta; that this is primarily
  concerned about the successor to Huerta; that this is primarily
and ultimately an American problem; that Great Britain's interest
  and ultimately an American problem; that Great Britain's interest
being only commercial is far less than the interest of the United
  being only commercial is far less than the interest of the United
States, which is commercial and also ethical; and so on and so
  States, which is commercial and also ethical; and so on and so
on. His sympathies and his friendliness are all right. But Egypt
  on. His sympathies and his friendliness are all right. But Egypt
and India were in his mind. He confessed to me that he was much
  and India were in his mind. He confessed to me that he was much
impressed---&quot;if you can carry it through.&quot; Many men
  impressed---&quot;if you can carry it through.&quot; Many men
are seeing the new idea (I wonder if you are conscious how new
  are seeing the new idea (I wonder if you are conscious how new
it is and how incredible to the Old World mind?) and they express
  it is and how incredible to the Old World mind?) and they express
the greatest and sincerest admiration for &quot;your brave new
  the greatest and sincerest admiration for &quot;your brave new
President&quot;; and a wave of friendliness to the United States
  President&quot;; and a wave of friendliness to the United States
swept over the Kingdom when the Government took its open stand.
  swept over the Kingdom when the Government took its open stand.
At the annual dinner of the oldest and richest of the merchants'
  At the annual dinner of the oldest and richest of the merchants'
guilds at which they invited me to respond to a toast the other
  guilds at which they invited me to respond to a toast the other
night they proposed your health most heartily and, when I arose,
  night they proposed your health most heartily and, when I arose,
they cheered longer and louder than I had before heard men cheer
  they cheered longer and louder than I had before heard men cheer
in this kingdom. There is, I am sure, more enthusiasm for the
  in this kingdom. There is, I am sure, more enthusiasm for the
United States here, by far, than for England in the United States.
  United States here, by far, than for England in the United States.
They are simply dense about any sort of government but their
  They are simply dense about any sort of government but their
own---particularly dense about the application of democracy to
  own---particularly dense about the application of democracy to
&quot;dependencies&quot; and inferior peoples. I have a neighbour
  &quot;dependencies&quot; and inferior peoples. I have a neighbour
who spent many years as an administrator in India. He has talked
  who spent many years as an administrator in India. He has talked
me deaf about the inevitable failure of this &quot;idealistic&quot;
  me deaf about the inevitable failure of this &quot;idealistic&quot;
Mexican programme. He is wholly friendly and wholly incredulous.
  Mexican programme. He is wholly friendly and wholly incredulous.
And for old-time Toryism gone to seed commend me to the <I>Spectator</I>.
  And for old-time Toryism gone to seed commend me to the <I>Spectator</I>.
Not a glimmering of the idea has entered Strachey's head. The
  Not a glimmering of the idea has entered Strachey's head. The
<I>Times</I>, however, now sees it pretty clearly. I spent Sunday
  <I>Times</I>, however, now sees it pretty clearly. I spent Sunday
a few weeks ago with two of its editors in the country, and they
  a few weeks ago with two of its editors in the country, and they
have come to see me several times since and written fairly good
  have come to see me several times since and written fairly good
&quot;leaders&quot; out of my conversation with them. So much
  &quot;leaders&quot; out of my conversation with them. So much
for this head. For the moment at least that is satisfactory.
  for this head. For the moment at least that is satisfactory.
You must not forget that they can't all at once take it in, for
  You must not forget that they can't all at once take it in, for
they do not really know what democracy is or whither it leads
  they do not really know what democracy is or whither it leads
and at bottom they do not really believe in it as a scheme of
  and at bottom they do not really believe in it as a scheme of
government---not even this Liberal Cabinet.
  government---not even this Liberal Cabinet.
<br><br>The British concern for commercial interests, which never
  <br><br>The British concern for commercial interests, which never
sleeps, will, I fear, come up continuously. But we shall simply
  sleeps, will, I fear, come up continuously. But we shall simply
do justice and stand firm, when this phase of the subject comes
  do justice and stand firm, when this phase of the subject comes
forward.
  forward.
<br><br>It's amusing, when you forget its sadness, that their first
  <br><br>It's amusing, when you forget its sadness, that their first
impulse is to regard an unselfish international act as what Cecil
  impulse is to regard an unselfish international act as what Cecil
Rhodes called the English &quot;unctuous rectitude.&quot; But
  Rhodes called the English &quot;unctuous rectitude.&quot; But
this experience that we are having with them will be worth much
  this experience that we are having with them will be worth much
in future dealings. They already feel very clearly that a different
  in future dealings. They already feel very clearly that a different
hand has the helm in Washington; and we can drive them hard,
  hand has the helm in Washington; and we can drive them hard,
if need be, for they will not forfeit our friendship.
  if need be, for they will not forfeit our friendship.
<br><br>It is worth something to discover that Downing Street makes
  <br><br>It is worth something to discover that Downing Street makes
many mistakes. Infallibility dwells a long way from them. In
  many mistakes. Infallibility dwells a long way from them. In
this matter they have made two terrible blunders---the recognition
  this matter they have made two terrible blunders---the recognition
of Huerta (they know that now) and the sending of Carden (they
  of Huerta (they know that now) and the sending of Carden (they
may already suspect that: they'll know it presently).
  may already suspect that: they'll know it presently).
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>Yours always faithfully,
    <br><br>Yours always faithfully,
<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>P. S. By Jove, I didn't know that I'd ever have to put the
  <br><br>P. S. By Jove, I didn't know that I'd ever have to put the
British Government through an elementary course in Democracy!<BR>
  British Government through an elementary course in Democracy!<BR>
To the President.
  To the President.
<br><br>.</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <br><br>.</BLOCKQUOTE>


<br><br>Occasionally Page discussed with Sir Edward Grey an alternative
<br><br>Occasionally Page discussed with Sir Edward Grey an alternative
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  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To the President</FONT></I></center>
  <br><br>The foregoing I wrote before this Mexican business took its
<br><br>The foregoing I wrote before this Mexican business took its
  present place. I can't get away from the feeling that the English
present place. I can't get away from the feeling that the English
  simply do not and will not believe in any unselfish public action---further
simply do not and will not believe in any unselfish public action---further
  than the keeping of order. They have a mania for order, sheer
than the keeping of order. They have a mania for order, sheer
  order, order for the sake of order. They can't see how anything
order, order for the sake of order. They can't see how anything
  can come in any one's thought before order or how anything need
can come in any one's thought before order or how anything need
  come afterward. Even Sir Edward Grey jocularly ran me across
come afterward. Even Sir Edward Grey jocularly ran me across
  our history with questions like this:
our history with questions like this:
  <br><br>&quot;Suppose you have to intervene, what then?&quot;
<br><br>&quot;Suppose you have to intervene, what then?&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;Make 'em vote and live by their decisions.&quot;
<br><br>&quot;Make 'em vote and live by their decisions.&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;But suppose they will not so live?&quot;
<br><br>&quot;But suppose they will not so live?&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;We'll go in again and make 'em vote again.&quot;
<br><br>&quot;We'll go in again and make 'em vote again.&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;And keep this up 200 years?&quot; asked he.
<br><br>&quot;And keep this up 200 years?&quot; asked he.
  <br><br>&quot;Yes,&quot; said I. &quot;The United States will be here
<br><br>&quot;Yes,&quot; said I. &quot;The United States will be here
  two hundred years and it can continue to shoot men for that little
two hundred years and it can continue to shoot men for that little
  space till they learn to vote and to rule themselves.&quot;
space till they learn to vote and to rule themselves.&quot;
  <br><br>I have never seen him laugh so heartily. Shooting men into
<br><br>I have never seen him laugh so heartily. Shooting men into
  self-government! Shooting them into orderliness---he comprehends
self-government! Shooting them into orderliness---he comprehends
  that; and that's all right. But that's as far as his habit of
that; and that's all right. But that's as far as his habit of
  mind goes. At Sheffield last night, when I had to make a speech,
mind goes. At Sheffield last night, when I had to make a speech,
  I explained &quot;idealism&quot; (they always quote it) in Government.
I explained &quot;idealism&quot; (they always quote it) in Government.
  They listened attentively and even eagerly. Then they came up
They listened attentively and even eagerly. Then they came up
  and asked if I really meant that Government should concern itself
and asked if I really meant that Government should concern itself
  with idealistic things---beyond keeping order. Ought they to
with idealistic things---beyond keeping order. Ought they to
  do so in India?---I assure you they don't think beyond order.
do so in India?---I assure you they don't think beyond order.
  A nigger lynched in Mississippi offends them more than a tyrant
A nigger lynched in Mississippi offends them more than a tyrant
  in Mexico.
in Mexico.
  <br><br>.
<br><br>.
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>
  <br><br>London, November 2, 1913.
<br><br>London, November 2, 1913.</center>
  <br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
  <br><br>I've been writing to the President that the Englishman has
<br><br>I've been writing to the President that the Englishman has
  a mania for order, order for order's sake, and for trade. He
a mania for order, order for order's sake, and for trade. He
  has reduced a large part of the world to order. He is the best
has reduced a large part of the world to order. He is the best
  policeman in creation; and---he has the policeman's ethics! Talk
policeman in creation; and---he has the policeman's ethics! Talk
  to him about character as a basis of government or about a moral
to him about character as a basis of government or about a moral
  basis of government in any outlying country, he'll think you
basis of government in any outlying country, he'll think you
  daft. Bah I what matter who governs or how he governs or where
daft. Bah I what matter who governs or how he governs or where
  he got his authority or how, so long as he keeps order. He won't
he got his authority or how, so long as he keeps order. He won't
  see anything else. The lesson of our dealing with Cuba is lost
see anything else. The lesson of our dealing with Cuba is lost
  on him. He doesn't believe <I>that. </I>We may bring this Government
on him. He doesn't believe <I>that. </I>We may bring this Government
  in line with us on Mexico. But in this case and in general, the
in line with us on Mexico. But in this case and in general, the
  moral uplift of government must be forced by us---I mean government
moral uplift of government must be forced by us---I mean government
  in outlying countries.
in outlying countries.
  <br><br>Mexico is only part of Central America, and the only way we
<br><br>Mexico is only part of Central America, and the only way we
  can ever forge a Central and South American policy that will
can ever forge a Central and South American policy that will
  endure is <I>this way, </I>precisely, by saying that your momentarily
endure is <I>this way, </I>precisely, by saying that your momentarily
  successful adventurer can't count on us anywhere; the man that
successful adventurer can't count on us anywhere; the man that
  rules must govern for the governed. Then we have a policy; and
rules must govern for the governed. Then we have a policy; and
  nobody else has that policy. This Mexican business is worth worlds
nobody else has that policy. This Mexican business is worth worlds
  to us---to establish this.
to us---to establish this.
  <br><br>We may have a diplomatic fight here; and I'm ready! Very ready
<br><br>We may have a diplomatic fight here; and I'm ready! Very ready
  on this, for its own sake and for reasons that follow, to wit:
on this, for its own sake and for reasons that follow, to wit:
  <br><br>Extraordinary and sincere and profound as is the respect of
<br><br>Extraordinary and sincere and profound as is the respect of
  the English for the American people, they hold the American Government
the English for the American people, they hold the American Government
  in contempt. It shifts and doesn't keep its treaty, etc., etc.---They
in contempt. It shifts and doesn't keep its treaty, etc., etc.---They
  are right, too. But they need to feel the hand that now has the
are right, too. But they need to feel the hand that now has the
  helm.
helm.
  <br><br>But one or two things have first to be got out of the way.
<br><br>But one or two things have first to be got out of the way.
  That Panama tolls is the worst. We are dead wrong in that, as
That Panama tolls is the worst. We are dead wrong in that, as
  we are dead right on the Mexican matter. If it were possible
we are dead right on the Mexican matter. If it were possible
  (I don't know that it is) for the President to say (quietly,
(I don't know that it is) for the President to say (quietly,
  not openly) that he agrees with us---if he do---then the field
not openly) that he agrees with us---if he do---then the field
  would be open for a fight on Mexico; and the reenforcement of
would be open for a fight on Mexico; and the reenforcement of
  our position would be incalculable.
our position would be incalculable.
  <br><br>Then we need in Washington some sort of Bureau or Master of
<br><br>Then we need in Washington some sort of Bureau or Master of
  Courtesies for the Government, to do and to permit us to do those
Courtesies for the Government, to do and to permit us to do those
  little courtesies that the English spend half their time in doing---this
little courtesies that the English spend half their time in doing---this
  in the course of our everyday life and intercourse. For example:
in the course of our everyday life and intercourse. For example:
  When I was instructed to inform this Government that our fleet
When I was instructed to inform this Government that our fleet
  would go to the Mediterranean, I was instructed also to say that
would go to the Mediterranean, I was instructed also to say that
  they mustn't trouble to welcome us---don't pay no 'tention to
they mustn't trouble to welcome us---don't pay no 'tention to
  us! Well, that's what they live for in times of peace---ceremonies.
us! Well, that's what they live for in times of peace---ceremonies.
  We come along and say, &quot;We're comin' but, hell! don't kick
We come along and say, &quot;We're comin' but, hell! don't kick
  up no fuss over us, we're from Missouri, we are!&quot; And the
up no fuss over us, we're from Missouri, we are!&quot; And the
  Briton shrugs his shoulders and says, &quot;Boor!&quot; These
Briton shrugs his shoulders and says, &quot;Boor!&quot; These
  things are happening all the time. Of course no one nor a dozen
things are happening all the time. Of course no one nor a dozen
  nor a hundred count; but generations of 'em have counted badly.
nor a hundred count; but generations of 'em have counted badly.
  A Government without manners.
A Government without manners.
  <br><br>If I could outdo these folk at their game of courtesy, and
<br><br>If I could outdo these folk at their game of courtesy, and
  could keep our treaty faith with 'em, then I could lick em into
could keep our treaty faith with 'em, then I could lick em into
  the next century on the moral aspects of the Mexican Government,
the next century on the moral aspects of the Mexican Government,
  and make 'em look up and salute every time the American Government
and make 'em look up and salute every time the American Government
  is mentioned See?---Is there any hope?---Such is the job exactly.
is mentioned See?---Is there any hope?---Such is the job exactly.
  And you know what it would lead to---even in our lifetime---<I>to
And you know what it would lead to---even in our lifetime---<I>to
  the leadership of the world: </I>and we should presently be considering
the leadership of the world: </I>and we should presently be considering
  how we may best use the British fleet, the British Empire, and
how we may best use the British fleet, the British Empire, and
  the English race for the betterment of mankind.
the English race for the betterment of mankind.
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>Yours eagerly,
<br><br>Yours eagerly,
    <br><br>W. H. P.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>W. H. P.</BLOCKQUOTE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P ALIGN=CENTER><FONT SIZE="+2">II</FONT>
<CENTER><FONT SIZE="+2">II</FONT></center>


<br><br>These letters are printed somewhat out of their chronological
<br><br>These letters are printed somewhat out of their chronological
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<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
  <br><br>London, August 25, 1913.
<br><br>London, August 25, 1913.
  <br><br>MY DEAR HOUSE:
<br><br>MY DEAR HOUSE:
  <br><br>. . . If you find a chance, get the substance of this memorandum
<br><br>. . . If you find a chance, get the substance of this memorandum
  into the hands of two men: the President and the Secretary of
into the hands of two men: the President and the Secretary of
  Agriculture. Get 'em in Houston's at once---into the President's
Agriculture. Get 'em in Houston's at once---into the President's
  whenever the time is ripe. I send the substance to Washington
whenever the time is ripe. I send the substance to Washington
  and I send many other such things. But I never feel sure that
and I send many other such things. But I never feel sure that
  they reach the President. The most confidential letter I have
they reach the President. The most confidential letter I have
  written was lost in Washington, and there is pretty good testimony
written was lost in Washington, and there is pretty good testimony
  that it reached the Secretary's desk. He does not acknowledge
that it reached the Secretary's desk. He does not acknowledge
  the important things, but writes me confidentially to inquire
the important things, but writes me confidentially to inquire
  if the office of the man who attends to the mail pouches (the
if the office of the man who attends to the mail pouches (the
  diplomatic and naval despatches in London)(<A NAME="n35"></A><A
diplomatic and naval despatches in London)(<ref>See the Appendix (at end of Vol. II) for this episode in detail.</ref>) is not an office into which he
  HREF="Pagenotes.htm#35">35</A>) is not an office into which he
might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure
  might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure
to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .
  to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .
.</BLOCKQUOTE>
  .
 
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>Yours heartily,
<br><br>Yours heartily,
    <br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.
<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.
    <br><br>.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>.</BLOCKQUOTE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
 


<br><br>Following is the memorandum:
<br><br>Following is the memorandum:
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   to fire a gun. Besides settling the Mexican trouble, we'd gain
   to fire a gun. Besides settling the Mexican trouble, we'd gain
   much---having had England by our side in a praiseworthy enterprise.
   much---having had England by our side in a praiseworthy enterprise.
   That, and the President's visit(<A NAME="n36"></A><A HREF="Pagenotes.htm#36">36</A>)
   That, and the President's visit(<ref>There was a suggestion, which the Ambassador endorsed, that President Wilson should visit England to accept, in the name of the United States, Sulgrave Manor, the ancestral home of the Washingtons. See Chapter IX, page 274.</ref>)
   would give the world notice to whom it belongs, and cause it
   would give the world notice to whom it belongs, and cause it
   to be quiet and to go about its proper business of peaceful industry.
   to be quiet and to go about its proper business of peaceful industry.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <br><br>I have just come from an hour's talk with Grey about Mexico.
<br><br>I have just come from an hour's talk with Grey about Mexico.
  He showed me his telegram to Carden, asking about Carden's reported
He showed me his telegram to Carden, asking about Carden's reported
  interview criticizing the United States, and Carden's flat denial.
interview criticizing the United States, and Carden's flat denial.
  He showed me another telegram to Carden about Huerta's reported
He showed me another telegram to Carden about Huerta's reported
  boast that he would have the backing of London, Paris, and Berlin
boast that he would have the backing of London, Paris, and Berlin
  against the United States, in which Grey advised Carden that
against the United States, in which Grey advised Carden that
  British policy should be to keep aloof from Huerta's boasts and
British policy should be to keep aloof from Huerta's boasts and
  plans. Carden denied that Huerta made such a boast in his statement
plans. Carden denied that Huerta made such a boast in his statement
  to the Diplomatic Corps. Grey wishes the President to know of
to the Diplomatic Corps. Grey wishes the President to know of
  these telegrams.
these telegrams.
  <br><br>Talk then became personal and informal. I went over the whole
<br><br>Talk then became personal and informal. I went over the whole
  subject again, telling how the Press and people of the United
subject again, telling how the Press and people of the United
  States were becoming critical of the British Government; that
States were becoming critical of the British Government; that
  they regarded the problem as wholly American; that they resented
they regarded the problem as wholly American; that they resented
  aid to Huerta, whom they regarded as a mere tyrant; that they
aid to Huerta, whom they regarded as a mere tyrant; that they
  suspected British interests of giving financial help to Huerta;
suspected British interests of giving financial help to Huerta;
  that many newspapers and persons refused to believe Carden's
that many newspapers and persons refused to believe Carden's
  denial; that the President's policy was not academic but was
denial; that the President's policy was not academic but was
  the only policy that would square with American ideals and that
the only policy that would square with American ideals and that
  it was unchangeable. I cited our treatment of Cuba. I explained
it was unchangeable. I cited our treatment of Cuba. I explained
  again that I was talking unofficially and giving him only my
again that I was talking unofficially and giving him only my
  own interpretation of the people's mood. He asked, if the British
own interpretation of the people's mood. He asked, if the British
  Government should withdraw the recognition of Huerta, what would
government should withdraw the recognition of Huerta, what would
  happen.
happen.
  <br><br>&quot;In my opinion,&quot; I replied, &quot;he would collapse.&quot;
<br><br>&quot;In my opinion,&quot; I replied, &quot;he would collapse.&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;What would happen then---worse chaos?&quot;
<br><br>&quot;What would happen then---worse chaos?&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;That is impossible,&quot; I said. &quot;There is no
<br><br>&quot;That is impossible,&quot; I said. &quot;There is no
  worse chaos than deputies in jail, the dictatorial doubling of
worse chaos than deputies in jail, the dictatorial doubling of
  the tariff, the suppression of opinion, and the practical banishment
the tariff, the suppression of opinion, and the practical banishment
  of independent men. If Huerta should fall, there is hope that
of independent men. If Huerta should fall, there is hope that
  suppressed men and opinion will set up a successful government.&quot;
suppressed men and opinion will set up a successful government.&quot;
  <br><br>&quot;Suppose that fail,&quot; he asked----&quot;'what then?&quot;
<br><br>&quot;Suppose that fail,&quot; he asked----&quot;'what then?&quot;
  <br><br>I replied that, in case of continued and utter failure, the
<br><br>I replied that, in case of continued and utter failure, the
  United States might feel obliged to repeat its dealings with
United States might feel obliged to repeat its dealings with
  Cuba and that the continued excitement of opinion in the United
Cuba and that the continued excitement of opinion in the United
  States might precipitate this.
States might precipitate this.
  <br><br>Grey protested that he knew nothing of what British interests
<br><br>Grey protested that he knew nothing of what British interests
  had done or were doing, that he wished time to think the matter
had done or were doing, that he wished time to think the matter
  out and that he was glad to await the President's communication.
out and that he was glad to await the President's communication.
  He thanked me cordially for my frank statements and declared
He thanked me cordially for my frank statements and declared
  that he understood perfectly their personal nature. I impressed
that he understood perfectly their personal nature. I impressed
  him with the seriousness of American public opinion.
him with the seriousness of American public opinion.
  <br><br>The last thing that the British Government desired at this
<br><br>The last thing that the British Government desired at this
  time was a serious misunderstanding with the United States, on
time was a serious misunderstanding with the United States, on
  Mexico or any other matter. Yet the Mexican situation, in early
Mexico or any other matter. Yet the Mexican situation, in early
  November, 1913, clearly demanded a complete cleaning up. The
November, 1913, clearly demanded a complete cleaning up. The
  occasion soon presented itself. Sir William Tyrrell, the private
occasion soon presented itself. Sir William Tyrrell, the private
  secretary of Sir Edward Grey sailed, in late October, for the
secretary of Sir Edward Grey sailed, in late October, for the
  United States. The purpose of his visit was not diplomatic, but
United States. The purpose of his visit was not diplomatic, but
  Page evidently believed that his presence in the United States
Page evidently believed that his presence in the United States
  offered too good an opportunity to be lost.
offered too good an opportunity to be lost.</blockquote>
  <br><br>.
<br><br>.
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>
 
  <br><br>Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge. <BR>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
  Sunday, October 26, 1913.
<br><br>Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge. <BR>
  <br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
Sunday, October 26, 1913.
  <br><br>Sir William Tyrrell, the secretary of Sir Edward Grey---himself,
<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
  I think, an M. P.---has gone to the United States to visit his
<br><br>Sir William Tyrrell, the secretary of Sir Edward Grey---himself,
  friend, Sir Cecil Spring Rice. He sailed yesterday, going first
I think, an M. P.---has gone to the United States to visit his
  to Dublin, N. H., thence with the Ambassador to Washington. He
friend, Sir Cecil Spring Rice. He sailed yesterday, going first
  has never before been to the United States, and he went off in
to Dublin, N. H., thence with the Ambassador to Washington. He
  high glee, alone, to see it. He's a good fellow, a thoroughly
has never before been to the United States, and he went off in
  good fellow, and he's an important man. He of course has Sir
high glee, alone, to see it. He's a good fellow, a thoroughly
  Edward's complete confidence, but he's also a man on his own
good fellow, and he's an important man. He of course has Sir
  account. I have come to reckon it worth while to get ideas that
Edward's complete confidence, but he's also a man on his own
  I want driven home into his head. It's a good head and a good
account. I have come to reckon it worth while to get ideas that
  place to put good ideas.
I want driven home into his head. It's a good head and a good
  <br><br>The Lord knows you have far too much to do; but in this juncture
place to put good ideas.
  I should count it worth your while to pay him some attention.
<br><br>The Lord knows you have far too much to do; but in this juncture
  I want him to get the President's ideas about Mexico, good and
I should count it worth your while to pay him some attention.
  firm and hard. They are so far from altruistic in their politics
I want him to get the President's ideas about Mexico, good and
  here that it would be a good piece of work to get our ideas and
firm and hard. They are so far from altruistic in their politics
  aims into this man's head. His going gives you and the President
here that it would be a good piece of work to get our ideas and
  and everybody a capital chance to help me keep our good American-English
aims into this man's head. His going gives you and the President
  understanding.
and everybody a capital chance to help me keep our good American-English
  <br><br>Whatever happen in Mexico, I'm afraid there will be a disturbance
understanding.
  of the very friendly feeling between the American people and
<br><br>Whatever happen in Mexico, I'm afraid there will be a disturbance
  the English. I am delivering a series of well-thought-out discourses
of the very friendly feeling between the American people and
  to Sir Edward with what effect, I don't know. If the American
the English. I am delivering a series of well-thought-out discourses
  press could be held in a little, that would be as good as it
to Sir Edward with what effect, I don't know. If the American
  is impossible.
press could be held in a little, that would be as good as it
  <br><br>I'm now giving the Foreign Office the chance to refrain from
is impossible.
  more premature recognizing.
<br><br>I'm now giving the Foreign Office the chance to refrain from
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
more premature recognizing.
    <br><br>Very hastily yours,
<BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>Very hastily yours,
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
 


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<BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">From Edward M. House</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">From Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
  <br><br>145 East 35th Street,<BR>
<br><br>145 East 35th Street,<BR>
  New York City.<BR>
New York City.<BR>
  November 4, 1913.
November 4, 1913.
  <br><br>DEAR PAGE:
<br><br>DEAR PAGE:</blockquote>
  <br><br>Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell
<br><br>Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell
  on the <I>Imperator, </I>was handed me on my way to the train
on the <I>Imperator, </I>was handed me on my way to the train
  as I left for Washington.
as I left for Washington.
  <br><br>The President talked with me about the Mexican situation and
<br><br>The President talked with me about the Mexican situation and
  it looks as if something positive will be done in a few days
it looks as if something positive will be done in a few days
  unless Huerta abdicates.
unless Huerta abdicates.
  <br><br>It is to be the policy of this Administration henceforth not
<br><br>It is to be the policy of this Administration henceforth not
  to recognize any Central American government that is not formed
to recognize any Central American government that is not formed
  along constitutional lines. Anything else would be a makeshift
along constitutional lines. Anything else would be a makeshift
  policy. As you know, revolutions and assassinations in order
policy. As you know, revolutions and assassinations in order
  to obtain control of governments are instituted almost wholly
to obtain control of governments are instituted almost wholly
  for the purpose of loot and when it is found that these methods
for the purpose of loot and when it is found that these methods
  will not bring the desired results, they will cease.
will not bring the desired results, they will cease.
  <br><br>The President also feels strongly in regard to foreign financial
<br><br>The President also feels strongly in regard to foreign financial
  interests seeking to control those unstable governments through
interests seeking to control those unstable governments through
  concessions and otherwise. This, too, he is determined to discourage
concessions and otherwise. This, too, he is determined to discourage
  as far as it is possible to do so.
as far as it is possible to do so.
  <br><br>This was a great opportunity for England and America to get
<br><br>This was a great opportunity for England and America to get
  together. You know how strongly we both feel upon this subject
together. You know how strongly we both feel upon this subject
  and I do not believe that the President differed greatly from
and I do not believe that the President differed greatly from
  us, but the recent actions of the British Government have produced
us, but the recent actions of the British Government have produced
  a decided irritation, which to say the least is unfortunate.
a decided irritation, which to say the least is unfortunate.
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>Faithfully yours,
<br><br>Faithfully yours,
    <br><br>E. M. HOUSE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>E. M. HOUSE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <br><br>.
<br><br>.
  <br><br>145 East 35th Street.<BR>
<br><br>145 East 35th Street.<BR>
  New York City.<BR>
New York City.<BR>
  November 14, 1913.
November 14, 1913.
  <br><br>DEAR PAGE:
<br><br>DEAR PAGE:
  <br><br>Things have happened quickly since I last wrote to you.
<br><br>Things have happened quickly since I last wrote to you.
  <br><br>I went to Washington Monday night as the guest of the Bryans.
<br><br>I went to Washington Monday night as the guest of the Bryans.
  They have been wanting me to come to them and I thought this
They have been wanting me to come to them and I thought this
  a good opportunity.
a good opportunity.
  <br><br>I talked the Mexican situation out thoroughly with him and
<br><br>I talked the Mexican situation out thoroughly with him and
  one of your dispatches came while I was there. I found that he
one of your dispatches came while I was there. I found that he
  was becoming prejudiced against the British Government, believing
was becoming prejudiced against the British Government, believing
  that their Mexican policy was based purely upon commercialism,
that their Mexican policy was based purely upon commercialism,
  that they were backing Huerta quietly at the instance of Lord
that they were backing Huerta quietly at the instance of Lord
  Cowdray, and that Cowdray had not only already obtained concessions
Cowdray, and that Cowdray had not only already obtained concessions
  from the Huerta Government, but expected to obtain others. Sir
from the Huerta Government, but expected to obtain others. Sir
  Lionel Carden was also all to the bad.
Lionel Carden was also all to the bad.
  <br><br>I saw the President and his views were not very different
<br><br>I saw the President and his views were not very different
  from those of Mr. Bryan. I asked the President to permit me to
from those of Mr. Bryan. I asked the President to permit me to
  see Sir William. Tyrrell and talk to him frankly and to attempt
see Sir William. Tyrrell and talk to him frankly and to attempt
  to straighten the tangle out. He gave me a free hand.
to straighten the tangle out. He gave me a free hand.
  <br><br>I lunched with Sir William at the British Embassy although
<br><br>I lunched with Sir William at the British Embassy although
  Sir Cecil Spring Rice was not well enough to be present. I had
Sir Cecil Spring Rice was not well enough to be present. I had
  a long talk with Sir William, after lunch and found that our
a long talk with Sir William, after lunch and found that our
  suspicions were unwarranted and that we could get together without
suspicions were unwarranted and that we could get together without
  any difficulty whatever.
any difficulty whatever.
  <br><br>I told him very frankly what our purpose was in Mexico and
<br><br>I told him very frankly what our purpose was in Mexico and
  that we were determined to carry it through if it was within
that we were determined to carry it through if it was within
  our power to do so. That being so I suggested that he get his
our power to do so. That being so I suggested that he get his
  government to cooperate cordially with ours rather than to accept
government to cooperate cordially with ours rather than to accept
  our policy reluctantly.
our policy reluctantly.
  <br><br>I told him that you and I had dreamed of a sympathetic alliance
<br><br>I told him that you and I had dreamed of a sympathetic alliance
  between the two countries and that it seemed to me that this
between the two countries and that it seemed to me that this
  dream might come true very quickly because of the President and
dream might come true very quickly because of the President and
  Sir Edward Grey. He expressed a willingness to cooperate freely
Sir Edward Grey. He expressed a willingness to cooperate freely
  and I told him I would arrange an early meeting with the President.
and I told him I would arrange an early meeting with the President.
  I thought it better to bring the President into the game rather
I thought it better to bring the President into the game rather
  than Mr. Bryan. I told him of the President's attitude upon the
than Mr. Bryan. I told him of the President's attitude upon the
  Panama toll question but I touched upon that lightly and in confidence,
Panama toll question but I touched upon that lightly and in confidence,
  preferring for the President himself to make his own statement.
preferring for the President himself to make his own statement.
  <br><br>I left the Bryans in the morning of the luncheon with Sir
<br><br>I left the Bryans in the morning of the luncheon with Sir
  William, intending to take an afternoon train for New York, but
William, intending to take an afternoon train for New York, but
  the President wanted me to stay with him at the White House over
the President wanted me to stay with him at the White House over
  night and meet Sir William with him at half past nine the following
night and meet Sir William with him at half past nine the following
  morning. He was so tired that I did not have the heart to urge
morning. He was so tired that I did not have the heart to urge
  a meeting that night.
a meeting that night.
  <br><br>From half past nine until half past ten the President and
<br><br>From half past nine until half past ten the President and
  Sir William. repeated to each other what they had said separately
Sir William. repeated to each other what they had said separately
  to me, and which I had given to each, and then the President
to me, and which I had given to each, and then the President
  elaborated upon the toll question much to the satisfaction of
elaborated upon the toll question much to the satisfaction of
  Sir William.
Sir William.
  <br><br>He explained the matter in detail and assured him of his entire
<br><br>He explained the matter in detail and assured him of his entire
  sympathy and purpose to carry out our treaty obligations, both
sympathy and purpose to carry out our treaty obligations, both
  in the letter and the spirit.
in the letter and the spirit.
  <br><br>Sir William was very happy after the interview and when the
<br><br>Sir William was very happy after the interview and when the
  President left us he remained to talk to me and to express his
President left us he remained to talk to me and to express his
  gratification. He cleared up in the President's mind all suspicion,
gratification. He cleared up in the President's mind all suspicion,
  I think, in regard to concessions and as to the intentions and
I think, in regard to concessions and as to the intentions and
  purposes of the British Government. He assured the President
purposes of the British Government. He assured the President
  that his government would work cordially with ours and that they
that his government would work cordially with ours and that they
  would do all that they could to bring about joint pressure through
would do all that they could to bring about joint pressure through
  Germany and France for the elimination of Huerta.
Germany and France for the elimination of Huerta.
  <br><br>We are going to give them a chance to see what they can do
<br><br>We are going to give them a chance to see what they can do
  with Huerta before moving any further. Sir William thinks that
with Huerta before moving any further. Sir William thinks that
  if we are willing to let Huerta save his face he can be got out
if we are willing to let Huerta save his face he can be got out
  without force of arms.
without force of arms.
  <br><br>Sir William said that if foreign diplomats could have heard
<br><br>Sir William said that if foreign diplomats could have heard
  our conversation they would have fallen in a faint; it was so
our conversation they would have fallen in a faint; it was so
  frankly indiscreet and undiplomatic. I did not tell him so, but
frankly indiscreet and undiplomatic. I did not tell him so, but
  I had it in the back of my mind that where people wanted to do
I had it in the back of my mind that where people wanted to do
  right and had the power to carry out their intentions there was
right and had the power to carry out their intentions there was
  no need to cloak their thoughts in diplomatic language.
no need to cloak their thoughts in diplomatic language.
  <br><br>All this makes me very happy for it looks as if we are in
<br><br>All this makes me very happy for it looks as if we are in
  sight of the promised land.
sight of the promised land.
  <br><br>I am pleased to tell you of the compliments that have been
<br><br>I am pleased to tell you of the compliments that have been
  thrown at you by the President, Mr. Bryan, and Sir William. They
thrown at you by the President, Mr. Bryan, and Sir William. They
  were all enthusiastic over your work in London and expressed
were all enthusiastic over your work in London and expressed
  the keenest appreciation of the way in which you have handled
the keenest appreciation of the way in which you have handled
  matters. Sir William told me that he did not remember an American
matters. Sir William told me that he did not remember an American
  Ambassador that was your equal.
Ambassador that was your equal.
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
    <br><br>Faithfully yours,
<br><br>Faithfully yours,
    <br><br>E. M. HOUSE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>E. M. HOUSE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>


<br><br>.


<br><br>So far as a meeting between a British diplomat and the President
So far as a meeting between a British diplomat and the President
of the United States could solve the Mexican problem, that problem
of the United States could solve the Mexican problem, that problem
was apparently solved. The dearest wish of Mr. Wilson, the elimination
was apparently solved. The dearest wish of Mr. Wilson, the elimination
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<BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
  <br><br>London, November 15, 1913.
<br><br>London, November 15, 1913.
  <br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
  <br><br>All's well here. The whole trouble was caused not here but
<br><br>All's well here. The whole trouble was caused not here but
  in Mexico City; and that is to be remedied yet. And it will be!
in Mexico City; and that is to be remedied yet. And it will be!
  For the moment it is nullified. But you need give yourself no
For the moment it is nullified. But you need give yourself no
  concern about the English Government or people, in the long run.
concern about the English Government or people, in the long run.
  It is taking them some time to see the vast difference between
It is taking them some time to see the vast difference between
  acting by a principle and acting by what they call a &quot;policy.&quot;
acting by a principle and acting by what they call a &quot;policy.&quot;
  They and we ourselves too have from immemorial time been recognizing
They and we ourselves too have from immemorial time been recognizing
  successful adventurers, and they didn't instantly understand
successful adventurers, and they didn't instantly understand
  this new &quot;idealistic&quot; move; they didn't know the man
this new &quot;idealistic&quot; move; they didn't know the man
  at the helm! I preached many sermons to our friend, I explained
at the helm! I preached many sermons to our friend, I explained
  the difference to many private groups, I made after-dinner speeches
the difference to many private groups, I made after-dinner speeches
  leading right up to the point---as far as I dared, I inspired
leading right up to the point---as far as I dared, I inspired
  many newspaper articles; and they see it now and have said it
many newspaper articles; and they see it now and have said it
  and have made it public; and the British people are enthusiastic
and have made it public; and the British people are enthusiastic
  as far as they understand it.
as far as they understand it.
  <br><br>And anybody concerned here understands the language that the
<br><br>And anybody concerned here understands the language that the
  President speaks now. You mustn't forget that in all previous
President speaks now. You mustn't forget that in all previous
  experiences in Latin America we ourselves have been as much to
experiences in Latin America we ourselves have been as much to
  blame as anybody else. Now we have a clear road to travel, a
blame as anybody else. Now we have a clear road to travel, a
  policy based on character to follow forever---a new era. Our
policy based on character to follow forever---a new era. Our
  dealing with Cuba was a new chapter in the history of the world.
dealing with Cuba was a new chapter in the history of the world.
  Our dealing with Mexico is Chapter II of the same Revelation.
Our dealing with Mexico is Chapter II of the same Revelation.
  Tell 'em this in Washington.
Tell 'em this in Washington.
  <br><br>The remaining task will be done too and I think pretty soon.
<br><br>The remaining task will be done too and I think pretty soon.
  For that I need well-loaded shells. I'll supply the gunpowder.
For that I need well-loaded shells. I'll supply the gunpowder.
  <br><br>And don't you concern yourself about the English. They're
<br><br>And don't you concern yourself about the English. They're
  all right---a little slow, but all right.
all right---a little slow, but all right.
  <BLOCKQUOTE>
 
    <br><br>Heartily yours,
<br><br>Heartily yours,
    <br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <br><br>.
<br><br>.
  <P ALIGN=CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I>
<CENTER><I><FONT SIZE="+1">To Edward M. House</FONT></I></center>
  <br><br>Newtimber Place, Hassocks, Sussex, <BR>
<br><br>Newtimber Place, Hassocks, Sussex, <BR>
  Sunday, November 23, 1913.
Sunday, November 23, 1913.
  <br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
<br><br>DEAR HOUSE:
  <br><br>Your letter telling me about Tyrrell and the President brought
<br><br>Your letter telling me about Tyrrell and the President brought
  me great joy. Tyrrell is in every way a square fellow, much like
me great joy. Tyrrell is in every way a square fellow, much like
  his Chief; and, you may depend on it, they are playing fair---in
his Chief; and, you may depend on it, they are playing fair---in
  their slow way. They always think of India and of Egypt---never
their slow way. They always think of India and of Egypt---never
  of Cuba. Lord! Lord! the fun I've had, the holy joy I am having
of Cuba. Lord! Lord! the fun I've had, the holy joy I am having
  (I never expected to have such exalted and invigorating felicity)
(I never expected to have such exalted and invigorating felicity)
  in delivering elementary courses of instruction in democracy
in delivering elementary courses of instruction in democracy
  to the British Government. Deep down at the bottom, they don't
to the British Government. Deep down at the bottom, they don't
  know what Democracy means. Their Empire is in the way. Their
know what Democracy means. Their Empire is in the way. Their
  centuries of land-stealing are in the way. Their unsleeping watchfulness
centuries of land-stealing are in the way. Their unsleeping watchfulness
  of British commerce is in the way. &quot;You say you'll shoot
of British commerce is in the way. &quot;You say you'll shoot
  men into self-government,&quot; said Sir Edward. &quot;Doesn't
men into self-government,&quot; said Sir Edward. &quot;Doesn't
  that strike you as comical?&quot; And I answered, &quot;It is
that strike you as comical?&quot; And I answered, &quot;It is
  comical only to the Briton and to others who have associated
comical only to the Briton and to others who have associated
  shooting with subjugation. We associate shooting with freedom.&quot;
shooting with subjugation. We associate shooting with freedom.&quot;
  Half this blessed Sunday at this country house I have been ramming
Half this blessed Sunday at this country house I have been ramming
  the idea down the throat of the Lord Chancellor.(<A NAME="n37"></A><A
the idea down the throat of the Lord Chancellor.(<ref>Viscount Haldane, Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain since 1912.</ref>) <I>He </I>sees it, too, being
  HREF="Pagenotes.htm#37">37</A>) <I>He </I>sees it, too, being
a Scotchman. I take the members of the Government, as I get the
  a Scotchman. I take the members of the Government, as I get the
chance or can make it, and go over with them the A B C of the
  chance or can make it, and go over with them the A B C of the
President's principle: no territorial annexation; no trafficking
  President's principle: no territorial annexation; no trafficking
with tyrants; no stealing of American governments by concession
  with tyrants; no stealing of American governments by concession
or financial thimble-rigging. They'll not recognize another Huerta---they're
  or financial thimble-rigging. They'll not recognize another Huerta---they're
sick of that. And they'll not endanger our friendship. They didn't
  sick of that. And they'll not endanger our friendship. They didn't
see the idea in the beginning. Of course the real trouble has
  see the idea in the beginning. Of course the real trouble has
been in Mexico City---Carden. They don't know yet just what he
  been in Mexico City---Carden. They don't know yet just what he
did. But they will, if I can find out. I haven't yet been able
  did. But they will, if I can find out. I haven't yet been able
to make them tell me at Washington. Washington is a deep hole
  to make them tell me at Washington. Washington is a deep hole
of silence toward ambassadors. By gradual approaches, I'm going
  of silence toward ambassadors. By gradual approaches, I'm going
to prove that Carden can do---and in a degree has already done---as
  to prove that Carden can do---and in a degree has already done---as
much harm as Bryce did good---and all about a paltry few hundreds
  much harm as Bryce did good---and all about a paltry few hundreds
of million dollars' worth of oil. What the devil does the oil
  of million dollars' worth of oil. What the devil does the oil
or the commerce of Mexico or the investments there amount to
  or the commerce of Mexico or the investments there amount to
in comparison with the close friendship of the two nations? Carden
  in comparison with the close friendship of the two nations? Carden
can't be good long: he'll break out again presently. He has no
  can't be good long: he'll break out again presently. He has no
political imagination. That's a rather common disease here, too.
  political imagination. That's a rather common disease here, too.
Few men have. It's good fun. I'm inviting the Central and South
  Few men have. It's good fun. I'm inviting the Central and South
American Ministers to lunch with me, one by one, and I'm incidentally
  American Ministers to lunch with me, one by one, and I'm incidentally
loading them up. I have all the boys in the Embassy full of zeal
  loading them up. I have all the boys in the Embassy full of zeal
and they are tackling the Secretaries of the Central and South
  and they are tackling the Secretaries of the Central and South
American legations. We've got a <I>principle </I>now to deal
  American legations. We've got a <I>principle </I>now to deal
by with them. They'll see after a while.
  by with them. They'll see after a while.
<br><br>English people are all right, too---except the Doctrinaires.
  <br><br>English people are all right, too---except the Doctrinaires.
They write much rank ignorance. But the learned men learn things
  They write much rank ignorance. But the learned men learn things
last of all.
  last of all.
<br><br>I thank you heartily for your good news about Tyrrell, about
  <br><br>I thank you heartily for your good news about Tyrrell, about
the President (but I'm sorry he's tired: make him quit eating
  the President (but I'm sorry he's tired: make him quit eating
meat and play golf); about the Panama tolls; about the Currency
  meat and play golf); about the Panama tolls; about the Currency
Bill (my love to McAdoo); about my own little affairs.---We are
  Bill (my love to McAdoo); about my own little affairs.---We are
looking with the very greatest pleasure to the coming of the
  looking with the very greatest pleasure to the coming of the
young White House couple. I've got two big dinners for them---Sir
  young White House couple. I've got two big dinners for them---Sir
Edward, the Lord Chancellor, a duchess or two, some good folk,
  Edward, the Lord Chancellor, a duchess or two, some good folk,
Ruth Bryan, a couple of ambassadors, etc., etc., etc. Then we'll
  Ruth Bryan, a couple of ambassadors, etc., etc., etc. Then we'll
take 'em to a literary speaking-feast or two, have 'em invited
  take 'em to a literary speaking-feast or two, have 'em invited
to a few great houses; then we'll give 'em another dinner, and
  to a few great houses; then we'll give 'em another dinner, and
then we'll get a guide for them to see all the reforming institutions
  then we'll get a guide for them to see all the reforming institutions
in London, to their hearts' content---lots of fun.
  in London, to their hearts' content---lots of fun.
<br><br>Lots of fun: I got the American Society for its Thanksgiving
  <br><br>Lots of fun: I got the American Society for its Thanksgiving
dinner to invite the Lord Chancellor to respond to a toast to
  dinner to invite the Lord Chancellor to respond to a toast to
the President. He's been to the United States lately and he is
  the President. He's been to the United States lately and he is
greatly pleased. So far, so good. Then I came down here---where
  greatly pleased. So far, so good. Then I came down here---where
he, too, is staying. After five or six hours' talk about everything
  he, too, is staying. After five or six hours' talk about everything
else he said, &quot; By the way, your countrymen have invited
  else he said, &quot; By the way, your countrymen have invited
me,&quot; etc., etc. &quot;Now what would be appropriate to talk
  me,&quot; etc., etc. &quot;Now what would be appropriate to talk
about?&quot; Then I poured him full of the New Principle as regards
  about?&quot; Then I poured him full of the New Principle as regards
Central and South America; for, if he will talk on that, what
  Central and South America; for, if he will talk on that, what
he says will be reported and read on both continents. He's a
  he says will be reported and read on both continents. He's a
foxy Scot, and he didn't say he would, but he said that he'd
  foxy Scot, and he didn't say he would, but he said that he'd
consider it. &quot;Consider&quot; means that he will confer with
  consider it. &quot;Consider&quot; means that he will confer with
Sir Edward. I'm beginning to learn their vocabulary. Anyhow the
  Sir Edward. I'm beginning to learn their vocabulary. Anyhow the
Lord Chancellor is in line.
  Lord Chancellor is in line.
<br><br>It's good news you send always. Keep it up--keep it up. The
  <br><br>It's good news you send always. Keep it up--keep it up. The
volume of silence that I get is oppressive. You remember the
  volume of silence that I get is oppressive. You remember the
old nigger that wished to pick a quarrel with another old nigger?
  old nigger that wished to pick a quarrel with another old nigger?
Nigger No. 1 swore and stormed at nigger No. 2, and kept on swearing
  Nigger No. 1 swore and stormed at nigger No. 2, and kept on swearing
and storming, hoping to provoke him. Nigger No. 2 said not a
  and storming, hoping to provoke him. Nigger No. 2 said not a
word, but kept at his work. Nigger No. 1 swore and stormed more.
  word, but kept at his work. Nigger No. 1 swore and stormed more.
Nigger No. 2 said not a word. Nigger No. 1 frothed still more.
  Nigger No. 2 said not a word. Nigger No. 1 frothed still more.
Nigger No. 2, still silent. Nigger No. 1 got desperate and said:
  Nigger No. 2, still silent. Nigger No. 1 got desperate and said:
&quot;Look here, you kinky-headed, flat-nosed, slab-footed nigger,
  &quot;Look here, you kinky-headed, flat-nosed, slab-footed nigger,
I warns you 'fore God, don't you keep givin' me none o' your
  I warns you 'fore God, don't you keep givin' me none o' your
damned silence!&quot; I wish you'd tell all my friends that story.
  damned silence!&quot; I wish you'd tell all my friends that story.
 
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    <br><br>Always heartily yours,
 
    <br><br>WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Always heartily yours,<br><br>
WALTER H. PAGE.</BLOCKQUOTE>
 
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CHAPTER VI



"POLICY" AND "PRINCIPLE" IN MEXICO



I



THE last days of February, 1913, witnessed one of those sanguinary scenes in Mexico which for generations had accompanied changes in the government of that distracted country. A group of revolutionists assailed the feeble power of Francisco Madero and virtually imprisoned that executive and his forces in the Presidential Palace. The Mexican army, whose most influential officers were General Blanquet and General Victoriano Huerta, was hastily summoned to the rescue of the Government; instead of relieving the besieged officials, however, these generals turned their guns upon them, and so assured the success of the uprising. The speedy outcome of these transactions was the assassination of President Madero and the seizure of the Presidency by General Huerta. Another outcome was the presentation to Page of one of the most delicate problems in the history of Anglo-American relations.



At almost any other time this change in the Mexican succession would have caused only a momentary disturbance. There was nothing new in the violent overthrow of government in Latin-America; in Mexico itself no president had ever risen to power except by revolution. The career of Porfirio Diaz, who had maintained his authority for a third of a century, had somewhat obscured this fundamental fact in Mexican politics, but Diaz had dominated Mexico for seven presidential terms, not because his methods differed from the accepted methods of his country, but because he was himself an executive of great force and a statesman of genius, and could successfully hold his own against any aspiring antagonist. The civilized world, including the United States, had long since become reconciled to this situation as almost a normal one. In recognizing momentarily successful adventurers, Great Britain and the United States had never considered such details as justice or constitutionalism: the legality of the presidential title had never been the point at issue; the only question involved was whether the successful aspirant actually controlled the country, whether he had established a state of affairs that approximately represented order, and whether he could be depended upon to protect life and property. During the long dictatorship of Porfirio Diaz, however, certain events had taken place which had awakened the minds of Americans to the possibility of a new international relationship with all backward peoples. The consequences of the Spanish War had profoundly impressed Page. This conflict had left the United States a new problem in Cuba and the Philippines. Under the principles that for generations had governed the Old World there would have been no particular difficulty in meeting this problem. The United States would have candidly annexed the islands, and exploited their resources and their peoples; we should have concerned ourselves little about any duties that might be owed to the several millions of human beings who inhabited them. Indeed, what other alternatives were there?



One was to hand the possessions back to Spain, who in a four hundred years' experiment had demonstrated her unfitness to govern them; another was to give the islands their independence, which would have meant merely an indefinite continuance of anarchy. It is one of the greatest triumphs of American statesmanship that it discovered a more satisfactory solution. Essentially, the new plan was to establish in these undeveloped and politically undisciplined regions the fundamental conditions that may make possible the ultimate creation of democratic, self-governing states. It was recognized that constitutions and election ballots in themselves did not necessarily imply a democratic order. Before these there must come other things that were far more important, such as popular education, scientific agriculture, sanitation, public highways, railroads, and the development of the resources of nature. If the backward peoples of the world could be schooled in such a preliminary apprenticeship, the time might come when the intelligence and the conscience of the masses would be so enlightened that they could be trusted with independence. The labour of Leonard Wood in Cuba, and of other Americans in the Philippines, had apparently pointed the way to the only treatment of such peoples that was just to them and safe for mankind.



With the experience of Cuba and the Philippines as a guide, it is not surprising that the situation in Mexico appealed to many Americans as opening a similar opportunity to the United States. The two facts that outstood all others were that Mexico, in her existing condition of popular ignorance, could not govern herself, and that the twentieth century could not accept indefinitely a condition of disorder and bloodshed that had apparently satisfied the nineteenth. The basic difficulty in this American republic was one of race and of national character. The fact that was constantly overlooked was that Mexico was not a Caucasian country: it was a great shambling Indian Republic. Of its 15,000,000 people less than 3,000,000 were of unmixed white blood, about 35 per cent. were pure Indian, and the rest represented varying mixtures of white and aboriginal stock. The masses had advanced little in civilization since the days of Cortez. Eighty per cent. were illiterate; their lives for the most part were a dull and squalid routine; protection against disease was unknown; the agricultural methods were most primitive; the larger number still spoke the native dialects which had been used in the days of Montezuma; and over good stretches of the country the old tribal regime still represented the only form of political organization. The one encouraging feature was that these Mexican Indians, backward as they might be, were far superior to the other native tribes of the North American Continent; in ancient times, they had developed a state of society far superior to that of the traditional Redskin. Nevertheless, it was true that the progress of Mexico in the preceding fifty years had been due almost entirely to foreign enterprise. By 1913, about 75,000 Americans were living in Mexico as miners, engineers, merchants, and agriculturists; American investments amounted to about $1,200,000,000---a larger sum than that of all the other foreigners combined. Though the work of European countries, particularly Great Britain, was important, yet Mexico was practically an economic colony of the United States. Most observers agree that these foreign activities had not only profited the foreigners, but that they had greatly benefited the Mexicans themselves. The enterprise of Americans had disclosed enormous riches, had given hundreds of thousands employment at very high wages, had built up new Mexican towns on modern American lines, had extended the American railway system over a large part of the land, and had developed street railways, electric lighting, and other modern necessities in all sections of the Republic. The opening up of Mexican oil resources was perhaps the most typical of these achievements, as it was certainly the most adventurous. Americans had created this, perhaps the greatest of Mexican industries, and in 1913, these Americans owned nearly 80 per cent. of Mexican oil. Their success had persuaded several Englishmen, the best known of whom was Lord Cowdray, to enter this same field. The activities of the Americans and the British in oil had an historic significance which was not foreseen in 1913, but which assumed the greatest importance in the World War; for the oil drawn from these Mexican fields largely supplied the Allied fleets and thus became an important element in the defeat of the Central Powers. In 1913, however, American and British oil operators were objects of general suspicion in both continents. They were accused of participating too actively in Mexican politics and there were those who even held them responsible for the revolutionary condition of the country. One picturesque legend insisted that the American oil interests looked with jealous hostility upon the great favours shown by the Diaz Administration to Lord Cowdray's company, and that they had instigated the Madero revolution in order to put in power politicians who would be more friendly to themselves. The inevitable complement to this interpretation of events was a prevailing suspicion that the Cowdray interests had promoted the Huerta revolt in order to turn the tables on "Standard Oil," to make safe the "concessions" already obtained from Diaz and to obtain still more from the new Mexican dictator.



To determine the truth in all these allegations, which were freely printed in the American press of the time, would demand more facts than are at present available; yet it is clear that these oil and other "concessions" presented the perpetual Mexican problem in a new and difficult light. The Wilson Administration came into power a few days after Huerta had seized the Mexican Government. The first difficulty presented to the State Department was to determine its attitude toward this usurper.



A few days after President Wilson's inauguration Mr. Irwin Laughlin, then Chargé d'Affaires in London---this was several weeks before Page's arrival---was instructed to ask the British Foreign Office what its attitude would be in regard to the recognition of President Huerta. Mr. Laughlin informed the Foreign Office that he was not instructed that the United States had decided on any policy, but that he felt sure it would be to the advantage of both countries to follow the same line. The query was not an informal one; it was made in definite obedience to instructions and was intended to elicit a formal commitment. The unequivocal answer that Mr. Laughlin received was that the British Government would not recognize Huerta, either formally or tacitly.



Mr. Laughlin sent his message immediately to Washington, where it apparently made a favourable impression. The Administration then let it be known that the United States would not recognize the new Mexican regime. Whether Mr. Wilson would at this time have taken such a position, irrespective of the British attitude, is not known, but at this stage of the proceedings Great Britain and the United States were standing side by side.



About three weeks afterward Mr. Laughlin heard that the British Foreign Office was about to recognize Huerta. Naturally the report astonished him; he at once called again on the Foreign Office, taking with him the despatch that he had recently sent to Washington. Why had the British Government recognized Huerta when it had given definite assurances to Washington that it had no intention of doing so? The outcome of the affair was that Sir Cecil Spring Rice, British Ambassador in Washington, was instructed to inform the State Department that Great Britain had changed its mind. France, Germany, Spain, and most other governments followed the British example in recognizing the new President of Mexico.



It is thus apparent that the initial mistake in the Huerta affair was made by Great Britain. Its action produced the most unpleasant impression upon the new Administration. Mr. Wilson, Mr. Bryan. and their associates in the cabinet easily found an explanation that was satisfactory to themselves and to the political enthusiasms upon which they had come into power. They believed that the sudden change in the British attitude was the result of pressure from British commercial interests which hoped to profit from the Huerta influence. Lord Cowdray was a rich and powerful Liberal; he had great concessions in Mexico which had been obtained from President Diaz; it was known that Huerta aimed to make his dictatorship a continuation of that of Diaz, to rule Mexico as Diaz had ruled it, that is, by force, and to extend a welcoming hand to foreign capitalists. An important consideration was that the British Navy had a contract with the Cowdray Company for oil, which was rapidly becoming indispensable as a fuel for warships, and this fact necessarily made the British Government almost a champion of the Cowdray interests. It was not necessary to believe all the rumours that were then afloat in the American press to conclude that a Huerta administration would be far more acceptable to the Cowdray Company than any headed by one of the military chieftains who were then disputing the control of Mexico. Mr. Wilson and Mr. Bryan believed that these events proved that certain "interests," similar to the "interests" which, in their view, had exercised so baleful an influence on American politics, were also active in Great Britain. The Wilson election in 1912 had been a protest against the dominance of "Wall Street" in American politics; Mr. Bryan's political stock-in-trade for a generation had consisted of little except a campaign against these forces; naturally, therefore, the suspicion that Great Britain was giving way to a British "Standard Oil" was enough to arm these statesmen against the Huerta policy, and to intensify that profound dislike of Huerta himself that was soon to become almost an obsession.



With this as a starting point President Wilson presently formulated an entirely new principle for dealing with Latin-American republics. There could be no permanent order in these turbulent countries and nothing approaching a democratic system until the habit of revolution should be checked. One of the greatest encouragements to revolution, said the President, was the willingness of foreign governments to recognize any politician who succeeded in seizing the executive power. He therefore believed that a refusal to recognize any government "founded upon violence" would exercise a wholesome influence in checking this national habit; if Great Britain and the United States and the other powers would set the example by refusing to have any diplomatic dealings with General Huerta, such an unfriendly attitude would discourage other forceful intriguers from attempting to repeat his experiment. The result would be that the decent elements in Mexico and other Latin-American countries would at last assert themselves, establish a constitutional system, and select their governments by constitutional means. At the bottom of the whole business were, in the President's and Mr. Bryan's opinion, the "concession" seekers, the "exploiters," who were constantly obtaining advantages at the hands of these corrupt governments and constantly stirring up revolutions for their financial profit. The time had now come to end the whole miserable business. "We are closing one chapter in the history of the world," said Mr. Wilson, "and opening another of unimaginable significance. . . . It is a very perilous thing to determine the foreign policy of a nation in the terms of material interests. . . . We have seen such material interests threaten constitutional freedom in the United States. Therefore we will now know how to sympathize with those in the rest of America who have to contend with such powers, not only within their borders, but from outside their borders."



In this way General Huerta, who, in his own eyes, was merely another in the long succession of Mexican revolutionary chieftains, was translated into an epochal figure in the history of American foreign policy; he became a symbol in Mr. Wilson's new scheme of things---the representative of the order which was to come to an end, the man who, all unwittingly, was to point the new way not only in Mexico, but in all Latin-American countries. The first diplomatic task imposed upon Page therefore was one that would have dismayed a more experienced ambassador. This was to persuade Great Britain to retrace its steps, to withdraw its recognition of Huerta, and to join hands with the United States in bringing about his downfall. The new ambassador sympathized with Mr. Wilson's ideas to a certain extent; the point at which he parted company with the President's Mexican policy will appear in due course. He therefore began zealously to preach the new Latin-American doctrine to the British Foreign Office, with results that appear in his letters of this period.



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To the President

6 Grosvenor Square, London,

Friday night, October 24, 1913.

DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:

In this wretched Mexican business, about which I have read columns and columns and columns of comment these two days and turned every conceivable proposition back and forth in my mind---in this whole wretched waste of comment, I have not seen even an allusion to any moral principle involved nor a word of concern about the Mexican people. It is all about who is the stronger, Huerta or some other bandit, and about the necessity of order for the sake of financial interests. Nobody recalls our action in giving Cuba to the Cubans or our pledge to the people of the Philippine Islands. But there is reference to the influence of Standard Oil in the American policy. This illustrates the complete divorce of European politics from fundamental morals, and it shocks even a man who before knew of this divorce.

In my last talk with Sir Edward Grey I drove this home by emphasizing strongly the impossibility of your playing primary heed to any American business interest in Mexico ---even---the immorality of your doing so; there are many things that come before business and there are some things that come before order. I used American business interests because I couldn't speak openly of British business interests and his Government. I am sure he saw the obvious inference. But not even from him came a word about the moral foundation of government or about the welfare of the Mexican people. These are not in the European governing vocabulary.

1 have been trying to find a way to help this Government to wake up to the effect of its pro-Huerta position and to give them a chance to refrain from repeating that mistake---and to save their faces; and I have telegraphed one plan to Mr. Bryan to-day. I think they ought now to be forced to show their hand without the possibility of evasion. They will not risk losing our good-will---if it seem wise to you to put them to a square test.

It's a wretched business, and the sordid level of European statecraft is sad.

I ran across the Prime Minister at the royal wedding reception([1]) the other day.

"What do you infer from the latest news from Mexico?" he asked.

"Several things."

"Tell me the most important inference you draw."

"Well, the danger of prematurely making up one's mind about a Mexican adventurer."

"Ah!" and he moved on.



Very heartily yours,



WALTER H. PAGE.



.

To the President

London, Sunday, Nov. 16, 1913.



. . . About the obligations and inferences of democracy, they are dense. They don't really believe in it; and they are slow to see what good will come of ousting Huerta unless we know beforehand who will succeed him. Sir Edward Grey is not dense, but in this matter even he is slow fully to understand. The Lord knows I've told him plainly over and over again and, I fear, even preached to him. At first he couldn't see the practical nature of so "idealistic" a programme. I explained to him how the immemorial "policy" that we all followed of recognizing momentarily successful adventurers in Latin-America had put a premium on revolution; that you had found something better than a policy, namely, a principle; that policies change, but principles do not; that he need not be greatly concerned about the successor to Huerta; that this is primarily and ultimately an American problem; that Great Britain's interest being only commercial is far less than the interest of the United States, which is commercial and also ethical; and so on and so on. His sympathies and his friendliness are all right. But Egypt and India were in his mind. He confessed to me that he was much impressed---"if you can carry it through." Many men are seeing the new idea (I wonder if you are conscious how new it is and how incredible to the Old World mind?) and they express the greatest and sincerest admiration for "your brave new President"; and a wave of friendliness to the United States swept over the Kingdom when the Government took its open stand. At the annual dinner of the oldest and richest of the merchants' guilds at which they invited me to respond to a toast the other night they proposed your health most heartily and, when I arose, they cheered longer and louder than I had before heard men cheer in this kingdom. There is, I am sure, more enthusiasm for the United States here, by far, than for England in the United States. They are simply dense about any sort of government but their own---particularly dense about the application of democracy to "dependencies" and inferior peoples. I have a neighbour who spent many years as an administrator in India. He has talked me deaf about the inevitable failure of this "idealistic" Mexican programme. He is wholly friendly and wholly incredulous. And for old-time Toryism gone to seed commend me to the Spectator. Not a glimmering of the idea has entered Strachey's head. The Times, however, now sees it pretty clearly. I spent Sunday a few weeks ago with two of its editors in the country, and they have come to see me several times since and written fairly good "leaders" out of my conversation with them. So much for this head. For the moment at least that is satisfactory. You must not forget that they can't all at once take it in, for they do not really know what democracy is or whither it leads and at bottom they do not really believe in it as a scheme of government---not even this Liberal Cabinet.

The British concern for commercial interests, which never sleeps, will, I fear, come up continuously. But we shall simply do justice and stand firm, when this phase of the subject comes forward.

It's amusing, when you forget its sadness, that their first impulse is to regard an unselfish international act as what Cecil Rhodes called the English "unctuous rectitude." But this experience that we are having with them will be worth much in future dealings. They already feel very clearly that a different hand has the helm in Washington; and we can drive them hard, if need be, for they will not forfeit our friendship.

It is worth something to discover that Downing Street makes many mistakes. Infallibility dwells a long way from them. In this matter they have made two terrible blunders---the recognition of Huerta (they know that now) and the sending of Carden (they may already suspect that: they'll know it presently).



Yours always faithfully,



WALTER H. PAGE.



P. S. By Jove, I didn't know that I'd ever have to put the British Government through an elementary course in Democracy!
To the President.



.



Occasionally Page discussed with Sir Edward Grey an alternative American policy which was in the minds of most people at that time:

To the President



The foregoing I wrote before this Mexican business took its present place. I can't get away from the feeling that the English simply do not and will not believe in any unselfish public action---further than the keeping of order. They have a mania for order, sheer order, order for the sake of order. They can't see how anything can come in any one's thought before order or how anything need come afterward. Even Sir Edward Grey jocularly ran me across our history with questions like this:

"Suppose you have to intervene, what then?"

"Make 'em vote and live by their decisions."

"But suppose they will not so live?"

"We'll go in again and make 'em vote again."

"And keep this up 200 years?" asked he.

"Yes," said I. "The United States will be here two hundred years and it can continue to shoot men for that little space till they learn to vote and to rule themselves."

I have never seen him laugh so heartily. Shooting men into self-government! Shooting them into orderliness---he comprehends that; and that's all right. But that's as far as his habit of mind goes. At Sheffield last night, when I had to make a speech, I explained "idealism" (they always quote it) in Government. They listened attentively and even eagerly. Then they came up and asked if I really meant that Government should concern itself with idealistic things---beyond keeping order. Ought they to do so in India?---I assure you they don't think beyond order. A nigger lynched in Mississippi offends them more than a tyrant in Mexico.

.

To Edward M. House

London, November 2, 1913.



DEAR HOUSE:

I've been writing to the President that the Englishman has a mania for order, order for order's sake, and for trade. He has reduced a large part of the world to order. He is the best policeman in creation; and---he has the policeman's ethics! Talk to him about character as a basis of government or about a moral basis of government in any outlying country, he'll think you daft. Bah I what matter who governs or how he governs or where he got his authority or how, so long as he keeps order. He won't see anything else. The lesson of our dealing with Cuba is lost on him. He doesn't believe that. We may bring this Government in line with us on Mexico. But in this case and in general, the moral uplift of government must be forced by us---I mean government in outlying countries.

Mexico is only part of Central America, and the only way we can ever forge a Central and South American policy that will endure is this way, precisely, by saying that your momentarily successful adventurer can't count on us anywhere; the man that rules must govern for the governed. Then we have a policy; and nobody else has that policy. This Mexican business is worth worlds to us---to establish this.

We may have a diplomatic fight here; and I'm ready! Very ready on this, for its own sake and for reasons that follow, to wit:

Extraordinary and sincere and profound as is the respect of the English for the American people, they hold the American Government in contempt. It shifts and doesn't keep its treaty, etc., etc.---They are right, too. But they need to feel the hand that now has the helm.

But one or two things have first to be got out of the way. That Panama tolls is the worst. We are dead wrong in that, as we are dead right on the Mexican matter. If it were possible (I don't know that it is) for the President to say (quietly, not openly) that he agrees with us---if he do---then the field would be open for a fight on Mexico; and the reenforcement of our position would be incalculable.

Then we need in Washington some sort of Bureau or Master of Courtesies for the Government, to do and to permit us to do those little courtesies that the English spend half their time in doing---this in the course of our everyday life and intercourse. For example: When I was instructed to inform this Government that our fleet would go to the Mediterranean, I was instructed also to say that they mustn't trouble to welcome us---don't pay no 'tention to us! Well, that's what they live for in times of peace---ceremonies. We come along and say, "We're comin' but, hell! don't kick up no fuss over us, we're from Missouri, we are!" And the Briton shrugs his shoulders and says, "Boor!" These things are happening all the time. Of course no one nor a dozen nor a hundred count; but generations of 'em have counted badly. A Government without manners.

If I could outdo these folk at their game of courtesy, and could keep our treaty faith with 'em, then I could lick em into the next century on the moral aspects of the Mexican Government, and make 'em look up and salute every time the American Government is mentioned See?---Is there any hope?---Such is the job exactly. And you know what it would lead to---even in our lifetime---to the leadership of the world: and we should presently be considering how we may best use the British fleet, the British Empire, and the English race for the betterment of mankind.



Yours eagerly,



W. H. P.



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A word of caution is necessary to understand Page's references to the British democracy. That the parliamentary system is democratic in the sense that it is responsive to public opinion he would have been the first to admit. That Great Britain is a democracy m the sense that the suffrage is general is also apparent. But, in these reflections on the British commonwealth, the Ambassador was thinking of his old familiar figure, the "Forgotten Man"---the neglected man, woman, and child of the masses. In an address delivered, in June, 1914, before the Royal Institution of Great Britain, Page gave what he regarded as the definition of the American ideal. "The fundamental article in the creed of the American democracy---you may call it the fundamental dogma if you like---is the unchanging and unchangeable resolve that every human being shall have his opportunity for his utmost development---his chance to become and to do the best that he can." Democracy is not only a system of government---"it is a scheme of society." Every citizen must have not only the suffrage, he must likewise enjoy the same advantages as his neighbour for education, for social opportunity, for good health, for success in agriculture, manufacture, finance, and business and professional life. The country that most successfully opened all these avenues to every boy or girl, exclusively on individual merit, was in Page's view the most democratic. He believed that the United States did this more completely than Great Britain or any other country; and therefore he believed that we were far more democratic. He had not found in other countries the splendid phenomenon presented by America's great agricultural region. "The most striking single fact about the United States is, I think, this spectacle, which, so far as I know, is new in the world: On that great agricultural area are about seven million farms of an average size of about 140 acres, most of which are tilled by the owners themselves, a population that varies greatly, of course, in its thrift and efficiency, but most of which is well housed, in houses they themselves own, well clad, well fed, and a population that trains practically all its children in schools maintained by public taxation." It was some such vision as this that Page hoped to see realized ultimately in Mexico. And some such development as this would make Mexico a democracy. It was his difficulty in making the British see the Mexican problem in this light that persuaded him that, in this comprehensive meaning of the word, the democratic ideal had made an inappreciable progress in Europe-and even in Great Britain itself.



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II



These letters are printed somewhat out of their chronological order because they picture definitely the two opposing viewpoints of Great Britain and the United States on Mexico and Latin-America generally. Here, then, was the sharp issue drawn between the Old World and the New---on one side the dreary conception of outlying countries as fields to be exploited for the benefit of "investors," successful revolutionists to be recognized in so far as they promoted such ends, and no consideration to be shown to the victims of their rapacity; and the new American idea, the idea which had been made reality in Cuba and the Philippines, that the enlightened and successful nations stood something in the position of trustees to such unfortunate lands and that it was their duty to lead them along the slow pathway of progress and democracy. So far the Wilsonian principle could be joyfully supported by the Ambassador. Page disagreed with the President, however, in that he accepted the logical consequences of this programme. His formula of "shooting people into self-government," which had so entertained the British Foreign Secretary, was a characteristically breezy description of the alternative that Page, in the last resort, was ready to adopt, but which President Wilson and Secretary Bryan persistently refused to consider. Page was just as insistent as the Washington Administration that Huerta should resign and that Great Britain should assist the United States in accomplishing his dethronement, and that the Mexican people should have a real opportunity of setting up for themselves. He was not enough of an "idealist," however, to believe that the Mexicans, without the assistance of their powerful neighbours, could succeed in establishing a constitutional government. In early August, 1913, President Wilson sent Mr. John Lind, ex-Governor of Minnesota, to Mexico as his personal representative. His mission was to invite Huerta to remove himself from Mexican politics, and to permit the Mexican people to hold a presidential election at which Huerta would himself agree not to be a candidate. Mr. Lind presented these proposals on August 15th, and President Huerta rejected every one of them with a somewhat disconcerting promptitude.



That Page was prepared to accept the consequences of this failure appears in the following letter. The lack of confidence which it discloses in Secretary Bryan was a feeling that became stronger as the Mexican drama unfolded.



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To Edward M. House



London, August 25, 1913.

MY DEAR HOUSE:

. . . If you find a chance, get the substance of this memorandum into the hands of two men: the President and the Secretary of Agriculture. Get 'em in Houston's at once---into the President's whenever the time is ripe. I send the substance to Washington and I send many other such things. But I never feel sure that they reach the President. The most confidential letter I have written was lost in Washington, and there is pretty good testimony that it reached the Secretary's desk. He does not acknowledge the important things, but writes me confidentially to inquire if the office of the man who attends to the mail pouches (the diplomatic and naval despatches in London)([2]) is not an office into which he might put a Democrat.---But I keep at it. It would be a pleasure to know that the President knows what I am trying to do. . .

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Yours heartily,

WALTER H. PAGE.



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Following is the memorandum:



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In October the provisional recognition of Huerta by England will end. Then this Government will be free. Then is the time for the United States to propose to England joint intervention merely to reduce this turbulent scandal of a country to order---on an agreement, of course, to preserve the territorial integrity of Mexico. It's a mere police duty that all great nations have to do---as they did in the case of the Boxer riots in China. Of course Germany and France, etc., ought to be invited---on the same pledge: the preservation of territorial integrity. If Germany should come in, she will thereby practically acknowledge the Monroe Doctrine, as England has already done. If Germany stay out, then she can't complain. England and the United States would have only to announce their intention: there'd be no need to fire a gun. Besides settling the Mexican trouble, we'd gain much---having had England by our side in a praiseworthy enterprise. That, and the President's visit([3]) would give the world notice to whom it belongs, and cause it to be quiet and to go about its proper business of peaceful industry.

Moreover, it would show all the Central and South American States that we don't want any of their territory, that we will not let anybody else have any, but that they, too, must keep orderly government or the great Nations of the earth, will, at our bidding, forcibly demand quiet in their borders. I believe a new era of security would come in all Spanish America. Investments would be safer, governments more careful and orderly. And---we would not have made any entangling alliance with anybody. All this would prevent perhaps dozens of little wars. It's merely using the English fleet and ours to make the world understand that the time has come for orderliness and peace and for the honest development of backward, turbulent lands and peoples.

If you don't put this through, tell me what's the matter with it. I've sent it to Washington after talking and being talked to for a month and after the hardest kind of thinking. Isn't this constructive? Isn't it using the great power lying idle about the world, to do the thing that most needs to he done?



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Colonel House presented this memorandum to the President, but events sufficiently disclosed that it had no influence upon his Mexican policy. Two days after it was written Mr. Wilson went before Congress, announced that the Lind Mission had failed, and that conditions in Mexico had grown worse. He advised all Americans to leave the country, and declared that he would lay an embargo on the shipment of munitions---an embargo that would affect both the Huerta forces and the revolutionary groups that were fighting them.



Meanwhile Great Britain had taken another step that made as unpleasant an impression on Washington as had the recognition of Huerta. Sir Lionel Edward Gresley Carden had for several years been occupying British diplomatic posts in Central America, in all of which he had had disagreeable social and diplomatic relations with Americans. Sir Lionel had always shown great zeal in promoting British commercial interests, and, justly or unjustly, had acquired the fame of being intensely anti-American. From 1911 to 1913 Carden had served as British Minister to Cuba; here his anti-Americanism had shown itself in such obnoxious ways that Mr. Knox, Secretary of State under President Taft, had instructed Ambassador Reid to bring his behaviour to the attention of the British Foreign Office. These representations took practically the form of requesting Carden's removal from Cuba. Perhaps the unusual relations that the United States bore toward Cuba warranted Mr. Knox in making such an approach; yet the British refused to see the matter in that light; not only did they fail to displace Carden, but they knighted him---the traditional British way of defending a faithful public servant who has been attacked. Sir Lionel Carden refused to mend his ways; he continued to indulge in what Washington regarded as anti-American propaganda; and a second time Secretary Knox intimated that his removal would be acceptable to this country, and a second time this request was refused. With this preliminary history of Carden as a background, and with the British-American misunderstanding over Huerta at its most serious stage, the emotions of Washington may well be imagined when the news came, in July, 1913, that this same gentleman had been appointed British Minister to Mexico. If the British Government had ransacked its diplomatic force to find the one man who would have been most objectionable to the United States, it could have made no better selection. The President and Mr. Bryan were pretty well persuaded that the "oil concessionaires" were dictating British-Mexican policy, and this appointment translated their suspicion into a conviction. Carden had seen much service in Mexico; he had been on the friendliest terms with Diaz; and the newspapers openly charged that the British oil capitalists had dictated his selection. All these assertions Carden and the oil interests denied; yet Carden's behaviour from the day of his appointment showed great hostility to the United States. A few days after he had reached New York, on his way to his new post, the New York World published an interview with Carden in which he was reported as declaring that President Wilson knew nothing about the Mexican situation and in which he took the stand that Huerta was the man to handle Mexico at this crisis. His appearance in the Mexican capital was accompanied by other highly undiplomatic publications. In late October President Huerta arrested all his enemies in the Mexican Congress, threw them into jail, and proclaimed himself dictator. Washington was much displeased that Sir Lionel Carden should have selected the day of these high-handed proceedings to present to Huerta his credentials as minister; in its sensitive condition, the State Department interpreted this act as a reaffirmation of that recognition that had already caused so much confusion in Mexican affairs.



Carden made things worse by giving out more newspaper interviews, a tendency that had apparently grown into a habit. "I do not believe that the United States recognizes the seriousness of the situation here. . . . I see no reason why Huerta should be displaced by another man whose abilities are yet to be tried. . . . Safety in Mexico can be secured only by punitive and remedial methods, and a strong man; "---such were a few of the reflections that the reporters attributed to this astonishing diplomat. Meanwhile, the newspapers were filled with reports that the British Minister was daily consorting with Huerta, that he was constantly strengthening that chieftain's backbone in opposition to the United States and that he was obtaining concessions in return for this support. To what extent these press accounts rested on fact cannot be ascertained definitely at this time; yet it is a truth that Carden's general behaviour gave great encouragement to Huerta and that it had the deplorable effect of placing Great Britain and the United States in opposition. The interpretation of the casual reader was that Great Britain was determined to seat Huerta in the Presidency against the determination of the United States to keep him out. The attitude of the Washington cabinet was almost bitter at this time against the British Government. "There is a feeling here," wrote Secretary Lane to Page, "that England is playing a game unworthy of her."



The British Government promptly denied the authenticity of the Carden interview, but that helped matters little, for the American public insisted on regarding such denials as purely diplomatic. Something of a storm against Carden arose in England itself, where it was believed that his conception of his duties was estranging two friendly countries. Probably the chief difficulty was that the British Foreign Office could see no logical sequence in the Washington policy. Put Huerta out---yes, by all means: but what then? Page's notes of his visit to Sir Edward Grey a few days after the latest Carden interview confirm this:



I have just come from an hour's talk with Grey about Mexico. He showed me his telegram to Carden, asking about Carden's reported interview criticizing the United States, and Carden's flat denial. He showed me another telegram to Carden about Huerta's reported boast that he would have the backing of London, Paris, and Berlin against the United States, in which Grey advised Carden that British policy should be to keep aloof from Huerta's boasts and plans. Carden denied that Huerta made such a boast in his statement to the Diplomatic Corps. Grey wishes the President to know of these telegrams.

Talk then became personal and informal. I went over the whole subject again, telling how the Press and people of the United States were becoming critical of the British Government; that they regarded the problem as wholly American; that they resented aid to Huerta, whom they regarded as a mere tyrant; that they suspected British interests of giving financial help to Huerta; that many newspapers and persons refused to believe Carden's denial; that the President's policy was not academic but was the only policy that would square with American ideals and that it was unchangeable. I cited our treatment of Cuba. I explained again that I was talking unofficially and giving him only my own interpretation of the people's mood. He asked, if the British government should withdraw the recognition of Huerta, what would happen.

"In my opinion," I replied, "he would collapse."

"What would happen then---worse chaos?"

"That is impossible," I said. "There is no worse chaos than deputies in jail, the dictatorial doubling of the tariff, the suppression of opinion, and the practical banishment of independent men. If Huerta should fall, there is hope that suppressed men and opinion will set up a successful government."

"Suppose that fail," he asked----"'what then?"

I replied that, in case of continued and utter failure, the United States might feel obliged to repeat its dealings with Cuba and that the continued excitement of opinion in the United States might precipitate this.

Grey protested that he knew nothing of what British interests had done or were doing, that he wished time to think the matter out and that he was glad to await the President's communication. He thanked me cordially for my frank statements and declared that he understood perfectly their personal nature. I impressed him with the seriousness of American public opinion.

The last thing that the British Government desired at this time was a serious misunderstanding with the United States, on Mexico or any other matter. Yet the Mexican situation, in early November, 1913, clearly demanded a complete cleaning up. The occasion soon presented itself. Sir William Tyrrell, the private secretary of Sir Edward Grey sailed, in late October, for the United States. The purpose of his visit was not diplomatic, but Page evidently believed that his presence in the United States

offered too good an opportunity to be lost.



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To Edward M. House



Newton Hall, Newton, Cambridge.
Sunday, October 26, 1913.

DEAR HOUSE:

Sir William Tyrrell, the secretary of Sir Edward Grey---himself, I think, an M. P.---has gone to the United States to visit his friend, Sir Cecil Spring Rice. He sailed yesterday, going first to Dublin, N. H., thence with the Ambassador to Washington. He has never before been to the United States, and he went off in high glee, alone, to see it. He's a good fellow, a thoroughly good fellow, and he's an important man. He of course has Sir Edward's complete confidence, but he's also a man on his own account. I have come to reckon it worth while to get ideas that I want driven home into his head. It's a good head and a good place to put good ideas.

The Lord knows you have far too much to do; but in this juncture I should count it worth your while to pay him some attention. I want him to get the President's ideas about Mexico, good and firm and hard. They are so far from altruistic in their politics here that it would be a good piece of work to get our ideas and aims into this man's head. His going gives you and the President and everybody a capital chance to help me keep our good American-English understanding.

Whatever happen in Mexico, I'm afraid there will be a disturbance of the very friendly feeling between the American people and the English. I am delivering a series of well-thought-out discourses to Sir Edward with what effect, I don't know. If the American press could be held in a little, that would be as good as it is impossible.

I'm now giving the Foreign Office the chance to refrain from more premature recognizing.



Very hastily yours,



WALTER H. PAGE.




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Sir William Tyrrell, to whom Page refers so pleasantly, was one of the most engaging men personally in the British Foreign Office, as well as one of the most influential. Though he came to America on no official mission to our Government, he was exceptionally qualified to discuss Mexico and other pending questions with the Washington Administration. He had an excellent background, and a keen insight into the human aspects of all problems, but perhaps his most impressive physical trait was a twinkling eye, as his most conspicuous mental quality was certainly a sense of humour. Constant association with Sir Edward Grey had given his mind a cast not dissimilar to that of his chief---a belief in ordinary decency in international relations, an enthusiasm for the better ordering of the world, a sincere admiration for the United States and a desire to maintain British-American friendship. In his first encounter with official Washington Sir William needed all that sense of the ludicrous with which he is abundantly endowed. This took the form of a long interview with Secretary Bryan on the foreign policy of Great Britain. The Secretary harangued Sir William on the wickedness of the British Empire, particularly In Egypt and India and in Mexico. The British oil men, Mr. Bryan declared, were nothing but the "paymasters" of the British Cabinet.



"You are wrong," replied the Englishman, who saw that the only thing to do on an occasion of this kind was to refuse to take the Secretary seriously. "Lord Cowdray hasn't money enough. Through a long experience with corruption the Cabinet has grown so greedy that Cowdray hasn't the money necessary to reach their price."



"Ah," said Mr. Bryan, triumphantly, accepting Sir William's bantering answer as made in all seriousness. "Then you admit the charge."



From this he proceeded to denounce Great Britain in still more unmeasured terms. The British, he declared, had only one interest in Mexico, and that was oil. The Foreign Office had simply handed its Mexican policy over to the "oil barons" for predatory purposes.



"That's just what the Standard Oil people told me in New York," the British diplomat replied. "Mr. Secretary, you are talking just like a Standard Oil man. The ideas that you hold are the ones which the Standard Oil is disseminating. You are pursuing the policy which they have decided on. Without knowing it you are promoting the interest of Standard Oil."



Sir William saw that it was useless to discuss Mexico with Mr. Bryan---that the Secretary was not a thinker but an emotionalist. However, despite their differences, the two men liked each other and had a good time. As Sir William was leaving, he bowed deferentially to the Secretary of State and said:



"You have stripped me naked, Mr. Secretary, but I am unashamed."



With President Wilson, however, the Englishman had a more satisfactory experience. He was delighted by the President's courtesy, charm, intelligence, and conversational powers. The impression which Sir William obtained of the American President on this occasion remained with him for several years and was itself an important element in British-American relations after the outbreak of the World War. And the visit was a profitable one for Mr. Wilson, since he obtained a clear understanding of the British policy toward Mexico. Sir William succeeded in persuading the President that the so-called oil interests were not dictating the policy of Sir Edward Grey. That British oil men were active in Mexico was apparent; but they were not using a statesman of so high a character as Sir Edward Grey for their purposes and would not be able to do so. The British Government entertained no ambitions in Mexico that meant unfriendliness to the United States. In no way was the policy of Great Britain hostile to our own. In fact, the British recognized the predominant character of the American interest in Mexico and were willing to accept any policy in which Washington would take the lead. All it asked was that British property and British lives be protected; once these were safeguarded Great Britain was ready to stand aside and let the United States deal with Mexico in its own way.



The one disappointment of this visit was that Sir William Tyrrell was unable to obtain from President Wilson any satisfactory statement of his Mexican policy.



"When I go back to England," said the Englishman, as the interview was approaching an end, "I shall be asked to explain your Mexican policy. Can you tell me what it is?"



President Wilson looked at him earnestly and said, in his most decisive manner:



"I am going to teach the South American Republics to elect good men!"



This was excellent as a purpose, but it could hardly be regarded as a programme.



"Yes," replied Sir William, "but, Mr. President, I shall have to explain this to Englishmen, who, as you know, lack imagination. They cannot see what is the difference between Huerta, Carranza, and Villa."



The only answer he could obtain was that Carranza was the best of the three and that Villa was not so bad as he had been painted. But the phrase that remained with the British diplomat was that one so characteristically Wilsonian: "I propose to teach the South American Republics to elect good men." In its attitude, its phrasing, it held the key to much Wilson history.



Additional details of this historic interview are given in Colonel House's letters:



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From Edward M. House



145 East 35th Street,
New York City.
November 4, 1913.



DEAR PAGE:



Your cablegram, telling me of the arrival of Sir William Tyrrell on the Imperator, was handed me on my way to the train as I left for Washington.

The President talked with me about the Mexican situation and it looks as if something positive will be done in a few days unless Huerta abdicates.

It is to be the policy of this Administration henceforth not to recognize any Central American government that is not formed along constitutional lines. Anything else would be a makeshift policy. As you know, revolutions and assassinations in order to obtain control of governments are instituted almost wholly for the purpose of loot and when it is found that these methods will not bring the desired results, they will cease.

The President also feels strongly in regard to foreign financial interests seeking to control those unstable governments through concessions and otherwise. This, too, he is determined to discourage as far as it is possible to do so.

This was a great opportunity for England and America to get together. You know how strongly we both feel upon this subject and I do not believe that the President differed greatly from us, but the recent actions of the British Government have produced a decided irritation, which to say the least is unfortunate.



Faithfully yours,



E. M. HOUSE.



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145 East 35th Street.
New York City.
November 14, 1913.

DEAR PAGE:

Things have happened quickly since I last wrote to you.

I went to Washington Monday night as the guest of the Bryans. They have been wanting me to come to them and I thought this a good opportunity.

I talked the Mexican situation out thoroughly with him and one of your dispatches came while I was there. I found that he was becoming prejudiced against the British Government, believing that their Mexican policy was based purely upon commercialism, that they were backing Huerta quietly at the instance of Lord Cowdray, and that Cowdray had not only already obtained concessions from the Huerta Government, but expected to obtain others. Sir Lionel Carden was also all to the bad.

I saw the President and his views were not very different from those of Mr. Bryan. I asked the President to permit me to see Sir William. Tyrrell and talk to him frankly and to attempt to straighten the tangle out. He gave me a free hand.

I lunched with Sir William at the British Embassy although Sir Cecil Spring Rice was not well enough to be present. I had a long talk with Sir William, after lunch and found that our suspicions were unwarranted and that we could get together without any difficulty whatever.

I told him very frankly what our purpose was in Mexico and that we were determined to carry it through if it was within our power to do so. That being so I suggested that he get his government to cooperate cordially with ours rather than to accept our policy reluctantly.

I told him that you and I had dreamed of a sympathetic alliance between the two countries and that it seemed to me that this dream might come true very quickly because of the President and Sir Edward Grey. He expressed a willingness to cooperate freely and I told him I would arrange an early meeting with the President. I thought it better to bring the President into the game rather than Mr. Bryan. I told him of the President's attitude upon the Panama toll question but I touched upon that lightly and in confidence, preferring for the President himself to make his own statement.

I left the Bryans in the morning of the luncheon with Sir William, intending to take an afternoon train for New York, but the President wanted me to stay with him at the White House over night and meet Sir William with him at half past nine the following morning. He was so tired that I did not have the heart to urge a meeting that night.

From half past nine until half past ten the President and Sir William. repeated to each other what they had said separately to me, and which I had given to each, and then the President elaborated upon the toll question much to the satisfaction of Sir William.

He explained the matter in detail and assured him of his entire sympathy and purpose to carry out our treaty obligations, both in the letter and the spirit.

Sir William was very happy after the interview and when the President left us he remained to talk to me and to express his gratification. He cleared up in the President's mind all suspicion, I think, in regard to concessions and as to the intentions and purposes of the British Government. He assured the President that his government would work cordially with ours and that they would do all that they could to bring about joint pressure through Germany and France for the elimination of Huerta.

We are going to give them a chance to see what they can do with Huerta before moving any further. Sir William thinks that if we are willing to let Huerta save his face he can be got out without force of arms.

Sir William said that if foreign diplomats could have heard our conversation they would have fallen in a faint; it was so frankly indiscreet and undiplomatic. I did not tell him so, but I had it in the back of my mind that where people wanted to do right and had the power to carry out their intentions there was no need to cloak their thoughts in diplomatic language.

All this makes me very happy for it looks as if we are in sight of the promised land.

I am pleased to tell you of the compliments that have been thrown at you by the President, Mr. Bryan, and Sir William. They were all enthusiastic over your work in London and expressed the keenest appreciation of the way in which you have handled matters. Sir William told me that he did not remember an American Ambassador that was your equal.



Faithfully yours,



E. M. HOUSE.


So far as a meeting between a British diplomat and the President of the United States could solve the Mexican problem, that problem was apparently solved. The dearest wish of Mr. Wilson, the elimination of Huerta, seemed to be approaching realization, now that he had persuaded Great Britain to support him in this enterprise. Whether Sir William Tyrrell, or Sir Edward Grey, had really become converted to the President's "idealistic" plans for Mexico is an entirely different question. At this time there was another matter in which Great Britain's interest was even greater than in Mexico. These letters have already contained reference to tolls on the Panama Canal. Colonel House's letter shows that the President discussed this topic with Sir William Tyrrell and gave him assurances that this would be settled on terms satisfactory to Great Britain. It cannot be maintained that that assurance was really the consideration which paved the way to an understanding on Huerta. The conversation was entirely informal; indeed, it could not be otherwise, for Sir William Tyrrell brought no credentials; there could be no definite bargain or agreement, but there is little question that Mr. Wilson's friendly disposition toward British shipping through the Panama Canal made it easy for Great Britain to give him a free hand in Mexico.



A few days after this White House interview Sir Lionel Carden performed what must have been for him an uncongenial duty. This loquacious minister led a procession of European diplomats to General Huerta, formally advised that warrior to yield to the American demands and withdraw from the Presidency of Mexico. The delegation informed the grim dictator that their governments were supporting the American policy and Sir Lionel brought him the unwelcome news that he could not depend upon British support. About the same time Premier Asquith made conciliatory remarks on Mexico at the Guildhall banquet. He denied that the British Government had undertaken any policy "deliberately opposed to that of the United States. There is no vestige of foundation for such a rumour." These events changed the atmosphere at Washington, which now became almost as cordial to Great Britain as it had for several months been suspicious.



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To Edward M. House



London, November 15, 1913.

DEAR HOUSE:

All's well here. The whole trouble was caused not here but in Mexico City; and that is to be remedied yet. And it will be! For the moment it is nullified. But you need give yourself no concern about the English Government or people, in the long run. It is taking them some time to see the vast difference between acting by a principle and acting by what they call a "policy." They and we ourselves too have from immemorial time been recognizing successful adventurers, and they didn't instantly understand this new "idealistic" move; they didn't know the man at the helm! I preached many sermons to our friend, I explained the difference to many private groups, I made after-dinner speeches leading right up to the point---as far as I dared, I inspired many newspaper articles; and they see it now and have said it and have made it public; and the British people are enthusiastic as far as they understand it.

And anybody concerned here understands the language that the President speaks now. You mustn't forget that in all previous experiences in Latin America we ourselves have been as much to blame as anybody else. Now we have a clear road to travel, a policy based on character to follow forever---a new era. Our dealing with Cuba was a new chapter in the history of the world. Our dealing with Mexico is Chapter II of the same Revelation. Tell 'em this in Washington.

The remaining task will be done too and I think pretty soon. For that I need well-loaded shells. I'll supply the gunpowder.

And don't you concern yourself about the English. They're all right---a little slow, but all right.



Heartily yours,



WALTER H. PAGE.



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To Edward M. House



Newtimber Place, Hassocks, Sussex,
Sunday, November 23, 1913.

DEAR HOUSE:

Your letter telling me about Tyrrell and the President brought me great joy. Tyrrell is in every way a square fellow, much like his Chief; and, you may depend on it, they are playing fair---in their slow way. They always think of India and of Egypt---never of Cuba. Lord! Lord! the fun I've had, the holy joy I am having (I never expected to have such exalted and invigorating felicity) in delivering elementary courses of instruction in democracy to the British Government. Deep down at the bottom, they don't know what Democracy means. Their Empire is in the way. Their centuries of land-stealing are in the way. Their unsleeping watchfulness of British commerce is in the way. "You say you'll shoot men into self-government," said Sir Edward. "Doesn't that strike you as comical?" And I answered, "It is comical only to the Briton and to others who have associated shooting with subjugation. We associate shooting with freedom." Half this blessed Sunday at this country house I have been ramming the idea down the throat of the Lord Chancellor.([4]) He sees it, too, being a Scotchman. I take the members of the Government, as I get the chance or can make it, and go over with them the A B C of the President's principle: no territorial annexation; no trafficking with tyrants; no stealing of American governments by concession or financial thimble-rigging. They'll not recognize another Huerta---they're sick of that. And they'll not endanger our friendship. They didn't see the idea in the beginning. Of course the real trouble has been in Mexico City---Carden. They don't know yet just what he did. But they will, if I can find out. I haven't yet been able to make them tell me at Washington. Washington is a deep hole of silence toward ambassadors. By gradual approaches, I'm going to prove that Carden can do---and in a degree has already done---as much harm as Bryce did good---and all about a paltry few hundreds of million dollars' worth of oil. What the devil does the oil or the commerce of Mexico or the investments there amount to in comparison with the close friendship of the two nations? Carden can't be good long: he'll break out again presently. He has no political imagination. That's a rather common disease here, too. Few men have. It's good fun. I'm inviting the Central and South American Ministers to lunch with me, one by one, and I'm incidentally loading them up. I have all the boys in the Embassy full of zeal and they are tackling the Secretaries of the Central and South American legations. We've got a principle now to deal by with them. They'll see after a while.

English people are all right, too---except the Doctrinaires. They write much rank ignorance. But the learned men learn things last of all.

I thank you heartily for your good news about Tyrrell, about the President (but I'm sorry he's tired: make him quit eating meat and play golf); about the Panama tolls; about the Currency Bill (my love to McAdoo); about my own little affairs.---We are looking with the very greatest pleasure to the coming of the young White House couple. I've got two big dinners for them---Sir Edward, the Lord Chancellor, a duchess or two, some good folk, Ruth Bryan, a couple of ambassadors, etc., etc., etc. Then we'll take 'em to a literary speaking-feast or two, have 'em invited to a few great houses; then we'll give 'em another dinner, and then we'll get a guide for them to see all the reforming institutions in London, to their hearts' content---lots of fun.

Lots of fun: I got the American Society for its Thanksgiving dinner to invite the Lord Chancellor to respond to a toast to the President. He's been to the United States lately and he is greatly pleased. So far, so good. Then I came down here---where he, too, is staying. After five or six hours' talk about everything else he said, " By the way, your countrymen have invited me," etc., etc. "Now what would be appropriate to talk about?" Then I poured him full of the New Principle as regards Central and South America; for, if he will talk on that, what he says will be reported and read on both continents. He's a foxy Scot, and he didn't say he would, but he said that he'd consider it. "Consider" means that he will confer with Sir Edward. I'm beginning to learn their vocabulary. Anyhow the Lord Chancellor is in line.

It's good news you send always. Keep it up--keep it up. The volume of silence that I get is oppressive. You remember the old nigger that wished to pick a quarrel with another old nigger? Nigger No. 1 swore and stormed at nigger No. 2, and kept on swearing and storming, hoping to provoke him. Nigger No. 2 said not a word, but kept at his work. Nigger No. 1 swore and stormed more. Nigger No. 2 said not a word. Nigger No. 1 frothed still more. Nigger No. 2, still silent. Nigger No. 1 got desperate and said: "Look here, you kinky-headed, flat-nosed, slab-footed nigger, I warns you 'fore God, don't you keep givin' me none o' your damned silence!" I wish you'd tell all my friends that story.


Always heartily yours,

WALTER H. PAGE.


  1. Prince Arthur of Connaught and the Duchess of Fife were married in the Chapel Royal, October 16, 1913.
  2. See the Appendix (at end of Vol. II) for this episode in detail.
  3. There was a suggestion, which the Ambassador endorsed, that President Wilson should visit England to accept, in the name of the United States, Sulgrave Manor, the ancestral home of the Washingtons. See Chapter IX, page 274.
  4. Viscount Haldane, Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain since 1912.



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